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Post by chriswilly Tue May 24, 2011 1:01 pm

hi all,

we've been looking around for an awning for our trooper and the same problem keeps on arising - attatching it to the van.
i've decided to attach a rail to the black gutter trim between van and roof shown in the photo below, as i'd rather not drill any new holes in the roof.

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i'm looking at 2 types the J rail and the C type , like the look of the c type but think it may be a bit tricky to attach and re-attach awning (rail to double keder strip to figure of 8 then to awning), and with the j rail i assume you just use the figure of 8 strip to clip it on like you would a gutter? also i would like to be able to attach a sun canopy to a rail as well (guess the c type would be better for this-just thread it in and your away).
Am i right with these connections? and does any body have help/advice????

i've seen a photo somewhere (seen so many pics and posts), i think it was of Stevos van (Hi Steve wave if you reading)with a j rail fitted. I'll be in touch witha question for you !!!

thanks,

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Post by stevomar Tue May 24, 2011 1:18 pm

Hi Chris
I've attached a J rail to the plastic trim betwee the roof and the body utilising 3 of the screws that keep the trim in place like this
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The awning looks like this when attached
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Using 3 small wingnut clamps that connect a pole to the J rail
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Hope this helps.

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Post by chriswilly Tue May 24, 2011 1:35 pm

Thanks Stevo,

very helpful . just another little one for you - will figure of 8 hold on the rail?

Ta ,

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Post by stevomar Tue May 24, 2011 2:18 pm

Hi Chris
If you mean will it hold on the J rail- I doubt it but I'm willing to be proved wrong. I think figure of 8 require corresponding fittings. Maybe someone else can help us out here ?
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Post by Paulmold Tue May 24, 2011 3:33 pm

I attach a sunshade (the one in my avatar photo) to my J rail with figure of 8's x 3. It will work but only if your J rail is high enough to give a downward force on the rail, otherwise it just comes out. I think a C rail would be better for you as your roof is low.
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Post by dandywarhol Tue May 24, 2011 9:36 pm

If you aren't into drilling holes then one of the modern adhesives will do more than the job - I used one to hold up a Fiamma Caravanstore on my Bongo

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Post by thelovewalrus Wed May 25, 2011 4:30 pm

Hi we had a reimo multi rail fitted along our black roof trim. This was down by Torbay campervans Best bit of kit out there.
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Post by chriswilly Thu May 26, 2011 5:47 pm

Thanks for all the posts,

Gonna try a 'C' type rail, i'm waiting on a price for a one piece length. will have a go at fitting using the existing screw locations like Stevo has done up! . Probably have to re-machine slightly to accomodate some shallow head or c/sk screws.

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Post by chriswilly Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:52 pm

Hi all,

Finished off the rail today (photo below) , i think this section is called a caravan rail, picked it up at my local caravan & camping shop (about £20 for a 3m length). I did get a sample of the 'c' profile that i mentioned previously, but the stuff i had was a bit too rigid and wouldn't follow the contour of the van.

hope this helps someone.

cheers,

Chris.
now all i need to do is decide on an awning!!!!!

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Post by algy Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:23 pm

Hi I am going to buy a small awning to fit our Harmony,not give it a lot of thought as when I had a VW camper it just hung on the gutter with a fiquire eight ,is the rail you have fitted the same as the awning rail on a caravan and if so do all awnings come with the relevant bead sewn into the tunnel bit of the awning....thanks Algy
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Post by chriswilly Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:50 pm

hi Algy wave ,

I dont know if its the same as the rails on caravans (i'm not familiar with them), but i did see this profile described as a caravan rail.
I went for the Khyam classic eventually, more than i wanted to spend but a demo at my local stockist sold it to me - very easy to put up.
The ones i was looking at had a 6mm keder beading sewn in, this khyam also has a space for a pole (& clamps)sewn in beneath the beading for use if you had a gutter (dont know whats standard with all awnings) . I needed a doublekeder strip to attach awning to the rail which i've secured to the van with a couple of clamps .
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I just attach the awning beading to this with the figure of 8 strips.
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i drove away & re-attached for the first time and it was relatively trouble free, just wish i had anyone other than my wife guiding me back into position girl-thinking . (we used groundsheet pegs for markers).

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Post by algy Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:56 pm

Thank you,I will go for the same...cheers..Algy
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Post by jaybee3946 Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:51 pm

Hi Chris,
I have a A/S Symbol on boxer with the same black trim on the roof I notice the type of awning rail you purchased is a nice fit in that gap.
I have looked every where for the same type with no success can you give us a clue where you found yours
Cheers JB.
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Post by chriswilly Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:39 pm

Hi JB,

I got mine from ABC camping in swansea £20 for 3m length , seen it that price in a somewhere online but delivery was a lot being so long. i know you said you tried everywhere (online i assume) but try going into some of your local caravan/camping shops preferably with caravan awnings on display, as they'll have this stuff on their walls. it fits a treat in the channel although it needed a little machining for the securing holes.
if you need any further help let me know.

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Post by jaybee3946 Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:16 pm

Hi Chris,
Thanks for that, I have just found 2 suppliers by using a different search engine. One was £15 the other was £24 but like you say it's the postage that cripples it, I'll wait Till were out and about again and make a trip out of it.
Thanks again for your time John.
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Post by murph Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:18 am

Hi jaybee,
If you cant find what you want any nearer, ring Glossop caravans in Glossop which is south east of Manchester, they have a seperate showroom for awnings and may be able to help.

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Post by jaybee3946 Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:25 pm

Thank's Brian I will do that.
Cheers John.
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