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Post by OAPtraveller Sun May 27, 2018 12:10 pm

AutoSleepy_Don wrote:If the issue is oil condition (& not a timer or mileage), then wouldn't the warning quickly come back again after a pedal reset?

That would depend whether using the pedals turns the warning off completely.
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Post by AutoSleepy_Don Sun May 27, 2018 1:31 pm

My van is 8 months old from new and it's done 2,400 miles.
The change engine oil indicator came on last Thursday. Going in to the "service menu", I see the service is at 27,500 miles and the oil was zero last Thursday.
I did the pedal reset and that sets the oil to 31,000 or 32,000 miles.

Mindful of this post, I went through my records and I have realised the van was handed over to me, new last August, with the change oil indicator on. I did a pedal reset last August and thought nothing more about it until now.

That means the oil counter has gone down from thirty odd thousand to zero in 2,300 miles.
I think I will take the van to the local Peugeot dealers next week.
In hindsight, the reset I did last August was probably a mistake. In any case I should have monitored the rate at which the counter was reducing.

I advise anyone who does a self reset to monitor the rate at which the oil counter reduces afterwards.
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Post by Mindhyg Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:37 pm

Hi all. As I started this post and after reading all the replies right or wrong I think I should now let you know the outcome, well at least for me anyway. Peugeot UK have paid for the oil and filter change as a 'goodwill gesture' and that's probably standard phrasing from them.  After complaining again I had another follow up email from Connor Dines. I cannot post my second email or the reply from him because it contains to many personal details for all to read. But the crux of it is that the dealership that sold me the vehicle ( SMC Newark ) should have reset the service/ oil change schedule at PDI. It appears that the  'change oil ' warning is on countdown as soon as it is built at the factory. As I said the payment was made as a  'goodwill gesture'. I would be quite happy to help anyone out with a PM sight of the email if it will help anyone suffering the same fate. You might just be surprised to find out the date when your base vehicle/ chassis was actually built by Peugeot, and how long it can be before it's gets to A/S for build up and then delivered to you from your dealer! No wonder there is a lot of this occurring.
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Post by jhorsf Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:58 pm

mine came on like all the others at 1500miles  and a few months old the dealer booked it in 2 week wait then had it all of 2 minutes to reset it ,
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Post by AutoSleepy_Don Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:38 pm

jhorsf wrote:mine came on like all the others at 1500miles  and a few months old the dealer booked it in 2 week wait then had it all of 2 minutes to reset it ,
Did they really just do the accelerator and brake pedal reset?
I picked my van up new with the change oil warning showing and I did the reset myself. It has come back on just 2,300 miles later (9 or 10 months) so I suspect it is more than a simple counter because a reset sets the counter to about 32,000 miles.
I am taking it to the dealers next week (2 weeks wait for me too). I have asked them to run diagnostics. A complication is I have already reset it (this being the 2nd time smile! ).
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Post by jhorsf Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:29 pm

I have no idea if they hooked it up or not it took minutes so I doubt it
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Post by johndean Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:54 pm

Hi all
took my 2017 Symbol into my Peugeot dealer today about oil condition warning lightg on, this came on couple of months ago and I turned it off. the mileage is 1300 mls. the dealer stated they would change the oil at no cost which they did but I also paid for a new filter £9.00 total cost.
I spoke to the master technician who was very knowledgeable about the subject
he stated the following
1) the indicator looks at previuos start ups and temp reached and length on trips ( motorhomes should have been reset after built because they have many start ups during building stage and the engine doesn't get very warm
all the parameters are logged into the computer and acted upon to certain condition of use.
he did try explaining but it was difficult to take in every condition but he did take the time to try and get me to understand
he also said that Peugeot will change the oil upto 13 months old.
please don't question me on it because I don't know if it all sank in at my age talk to a Peugeot Master Techician who I am sure can explain it in full.
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Post by Mindhyg Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:46 pm

I started the OP and something else I have learnt from Peugeot and this is worth remembering so when it happens you will know and not wonder why it has happened again. 

Having the "change oil and filter" warning service done, because it has shown up before your first scheduled 2 year service will make the warning come back on one year after it was reset. The technician will reset the next oil change/ service interval to one year forward from the date he does that first warning oil and filter change. This could in effect mean that you need to get the van serviced very early and before your first scheduled service at 2 years because it was reset in your first year of ownership. I'll leave you to work that one out. 

So now we can sit back and wait for round two of the "change engine oil and filter" and early warning for first service saga.  oh_blast!
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Post by Cymro Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:46 am

Can Peugeot mechanic set the warning for next service by mileage, rather than by time? That's possible on my (non-Peugeot) car e.g. every 10K miles.  I appr4eciate, of course, that with a vehicle like a motorhome which won't do many miles a year, the mileage-based warning might need to be set to activate after, say 6K or whatever.
The Peugeot handbook on my Nuevo gives a 20K miles interval - not that I'd apply it!
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Post by AutoSleepy_Don Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:46 pm

Cymro wrote:
The Peugeot handbook on my Nuevo gives a 20K miles interval - not that I'd apply it!
The onboard indicator goes to 30,000 when you do a reset.
I believe the 2015 onwards boxer service interval is 30,000 miles or 2 years whichever occurs first.
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Post by Mindhyg Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:20 am

Reading the posts on this subject about all the problems owners have had after doing a DIY pedal reset, the advice surely is too book the van in, have the oil and filter done free of charge ( Peugeot will do that, they did mine and others on here ) and don't do a reset via the pedal yourself. It is now showing on this forum that doing a reset yourself via the pedal is causing all sorts of problems. This change oil and filter warning is happening not only on our Peugeot based PVC's but on other manufacturers outfits as well. A friend has a Peugeot Euro 6 based Bailey, and has also had this problem. He did a DIY pedal reset, that he had seen on YouTube, and this worked for a while ( 600 miles ), but the warning came back again. Only when he had the oil and filter changed ( free of charge ) and a reset done by Peugeot did it not come back on. It's not our fault if it was not dealer reset before delivery to the customer and in the end that's what it all comes down too.
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Post by Sapper Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:09 pm

Hi, I know this is an old posting but I' sure other people will continue to have this problem as I have myself. My van is 11 months old and I've done just over 2500 miles and I've been getting this notice flash up for ages now. I spoke to my dealer who are Fiat professional but not Peugeot approved (but can do the service) and they said, the reason is, the van was probably built in 2019 and that's that's why the light is coming on. They followed up on this by saying just ignore the warning we'll change the oil next year.

Not quite sure what to do I booked in to our local Peugeot dealer and find out what they think. It went in this morning and I fully expected to be told it does need an oil change but was quite surprised.

When I picked it up the receptionist handed me the report which said.

Checked for oil light flashing on dash.
Oil dilution rates are good.
Counter out of sync as vehicle was built in 2019 so almost two years old.
Vehicle was only registered October 2020.
Reset counter.
Zero charge.

Just goes to show eh there are good and bad garages.
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Post by Nairnite Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:51 am

I did what most women would do ( ok women don’t all shout at once ) posted by Lorfar - If this slightly derogatory reply means that a woman would take it to the garage and get the oil changed, coughing up the £90 + quid to get it attended to properly - then yes I would be guilty of doing that. Why fork out over £50K and then be miserly about one of the basic but important ingredients to ensure longevity in the engine? After all without the engine working properly then you don't have a mobile motorhome - just a caravan!


If Lorfar meant something complimentary then apologies for misreading his post!
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Post by Paulmold Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:29 am

Lorfar is female (look at profile). Is she not allowed to say anything derogatory about her own gender?

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Post by glyne lock Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:49 am

Sapper wrote:Hi, I know this is an old posting but I' sure other people will continue to have this problem as I have myself. My van is 11 months old and I've done just over 2500 miles and I've been getting this notice flash up for ages now. I spoke to my dealer who are Fiat professional but not Peugeot approved (but can do the service) and they said, the reason is, the van was probably built in 2019 and that's that's why the light is coming on. They followed up on this by saying just ignore the warning we'll change the oil next year.

Not quite sure what to do I booked in to our local Peugeot dealer and find out what they think. It went in this morning and I fully expected to be told it does need an oil change but was quite surprised.

When I picked it up the receptionist handed me the report which said.

Checked for oil light flashing on dash.
Oil dilution rates are good.
Counter out of sync as vehicle was built in 2019 so almost two years old.
Vehicle was only registered October 2020.
Reset counter.
Zero charge.

Just goes to show eh there are good and bad garages.
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Post by gef Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:40 am

I've had the same problem as others but local peugeot dealer not at all helpful so paying for a good garage who will look over whole van and do the oil change
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Post by gef Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:36 pm

Just bit the bullet and had the first service early at 2900 miles at local garage who purchased genuine peugeot parts and has kept his invoices to prove the point. So no more oil change warnings and a bill for£196 but safe.  Local peugeot dealer has lost his dealership so parts from far away.
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Post by AutoSleepy_Don Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:27 pm

gef wrote:Just bit the bullet and had the first service early at 2900 miles at local garage who purchased genuine peugeot parts and has kept his invoices to prove the point. So no more oil change warnings and a bill for£196 but safe.  Local Peugeot dealer has lost his dealership so parts from far away.
I suggest you monitor the oil indicator over the coming year to check it isn't falling too quickly
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