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Post by alt Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:44 pm

Our Nuevo bought May this year has 3 hours before switch off.
I'm sure I've read a post somewhere that there is a way to set it between 20 mins and 180 though.
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:46 pm

Why does the current Boxer driver's manual show a menu option for "Adjust Radio Off time" if it is not adjustable?

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Post by Toffee Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:12 pm

The time is adjustable normal mode zero minutes camper mode 20minutes, the technical sheet supplied by the owners club suggests there is a 180 minute option but on ours without the cd slot 20 minutes maximum.
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Post by bertb Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:35 pm

Do you know Mojo I couldn't find an after market radio with GALA. The current one in the van has it and my 2009 Ford had it. 
As for the shutdown noises, I never heard them on the Sony I bought. Unfortunately that van has gone and I cannot remember the radio number.
Toffee, the radio in my 2013 Boxer does have the facility to change the 'off delay' from 20 to 180 minutes.
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Post by Spospe Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:16 pm

The instructions on how to change a radio from 20 minutes to 180 minutes are shown here:

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The above works with Euro 5 Boxers and may well work with the facelift models, if they have a different procedure, I suggest asking AS for details (I can't believe that the feature has been deleted).
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Post by Toffee Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:50 am

Yes the instructions are for a different radio as the one with no cd slot does not have the central power button. Our 2016 van is euro v also chassis cabs come with different radios than van conversions. I'm led to believe the latest vans coming through are different again.
Believe me the max time you can listen to the radio is 20 minutes, there are no other menu options:
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Post by LINKSMAN Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:12 am

LINKSMAN thanks all the members who tried to help with the radio cut-off problem in the June 2015 Warwick Duo, particularly to Toffee whose information was exactly the same as I had experienced. How silly it is to sit in the lounge area, with its twin speakers, and having to get up and move to the cab every 20 minutes to continue listening. What is the point in having speakers in the lounge with such a short audio span?
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Post by sylvester1954 Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:17 am

Even more annoying is that l only have one speaker from the two operating in the rear....not sure how to resolve that as its nothing to do with altering the balance on the radio.
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Post by StewPotch Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:21 am

LINKSMAN wrote: .............How silly it is to sit in the lounge area, with its twin speakers, and having to get up and move to the cab every 20 minutes to continue listening. What is the point in having speakers in the lounge with such a short audio span?.........
Time for another wiring mod I think.
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Post by matchlessman Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:05 am

The auto cutout is there to ensure you don't flatten the vehicle battery and can't start in the morning. 
The best way to overcome the issue is to run power from the leisure battery to the radio and have it live all the time (not switched on and off by the ignition). You can then run it for as long as you like safe in the knowledge that the vehicle battery will have enough juice to start you in the morning. 
There are two positive feeds into the radio, a permanent one to remember stations and power it up for 20/180 mins etc and a switched one connected to the ignition circuit. To allow anytime operation they should be connected together and fed from the Hab battery. 
If you have an aftermarket radio these two leads are easy to identify as they can be wired opposite for some vehicles, but if you have a factory radio you will need to study the wiring diagram to work out which is which. From memory one is red the other red and yellow (its some time since I last did that mod).
The only drawback is that you have to turn the radio on and off manually as it is no longer switched by the ignition. - no great hardship.
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Post by StewPotch Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:15 am

matchlessman wrote:The auto cutout is there to ensure you don't flatten the vehicle battery and can't start in the morning. 
The best way to overcome the issue is to run power from the leisure battery to the radio and have it live all the time (not switched on and off by the ignition). You can then run it for as long as you like safe in the knowledge that the vehicle battery will have enough juice to start you in the morning. 
There are two positive feeds into the radio, a permanent one to remember stations and power it up for 20/180 mins etc and a switched one connected to the ignition circuit. To allow anytime operation they should be connected together and fed from the Hab battery. 
If you have an aftermarket radio these two leads are easy to identify as they can be wired opposite for some vehicles, but if you have a factory radio you will need to study the wiring diagram to work out which is which. From memory one is red the other red and yellow (its some time since I last did that mod).
The only drawback is that you have to turn the radio on and off manually as it is no longer switched by the ignition. - no great hardship.


Yep, but I was thinking along the lines of a two-way switch. Connect the common switch terminal to the radio and one of the other terminals to the vehicle ignition system (as the radio is connected at the moment) and the other switch terminal to the leisure battery (via a fuse).
The switch would be left in the ignition position whilst travelling etc and only put to the leisure position when on site.
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Post by rgermain Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:57 am

About time Mr Curry got involved, waste of time and money fitting twin speakers in the rear when we have the already mentioned problems.

Just like it's the same waste to fit a TV aerial on the roof that doesn't work unless in sight of the transmitter.

Come on A/S please.
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Post by roli Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:09 am

I had a look in the menu and the 20min option was unchecked which in theory should mean it doesnt go off after 20min but it does, If the box is checked it still goes off.
Havn't tried it on media yet to see if it cuts out only had that playing when mobile.
Why o Why havn't Sevel sorted this issue after all these years and 3 model changes.
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Post by dbroada Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:32 am

roli wrote:I had a look in the menu and the 20min option was unchecked which in theory should mean it doesnt go off after 20min but it does, If the box is checked it still goes off.
Havn't tried it on media yet to see if it cuts out only had that playing when mobile.
Why o Why havn't Sevel sorted this issue after all these years and 3 model changes.
I only have the 180 minute option on mine. Admittedly the Fiat chassis but being the same production line I would expect them to be the same. Mine isn't checked but does go off after 3 hours but I'm not sitting out in the cold just to see what happens if I check the box.

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Post by StewPotch Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:41 am

roli wrote:I had a look in the menu and the 20min option was unchecked which in theory should mean it doesnt go off after 20min but it does, If the box is checked it still goes off.
Havn't tried it on media yet to see if it cuts out only had that playing when mobile.
Why o Why havn't Sevel sorted this issue after all these years and 3 model changes.

I think checking or unchecking the box means the radio will run for 20 minutes after the ignition is turned off or go straight off - nothing else.
Either way, 20 minutes is the maximum the radio will remain on for.
At the end of the day, the front end is a delivery van with very few refinements and I don't think A/S engineering pay much attention to the 'delivery van' side.
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Post by KeithM Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:51 am

The 20 minute cut off is not the chassis builders problem it is built in by the ICE manufacturer and is the same on cars etc.

The above 'get around' a permanent supply, is probably the best answer.
Whatever you do, do not take the permanent supply from the vehicle start battery. :rolleye0013:
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Post by StewPotch Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:00 pm

KeithM wrote:The 20 minute cut off is not the chassis builders problem it is built in by the ICE manufacturer and is the same on cars etc.

The above 'get around' a permanent supply, is probably the best answer.
Whatever you do, do not take the permanent supply from the vehicle start battery. :rolleye0013:
I don't think anyone is advocating taking the supply from the vehicle starting battery. :rolleye0013:
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Post by matchlessman Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:02 pm

You cannot blame the manufacturers of the base vehicle. They are catering for white van man, which is where the vast majority of the Sevel vehicles go. Only motorhomes have a leisure battery which can be used for the radio. They will not let the radio remain on, for fear of flattening the engine battery, with all the attendant claims of being stranded.
AS should be the ones doing a mod to use the leisure battery as part of the build.
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Post by StewPotch Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:08 pm

Yeah, totally agree with that Matchlessman
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Post by KeithM Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:46 pm

StewPotch wrote:
KeithM wrote:The 20 minute cut off is not the chassis builders problem it is built in by the ICE manufacturer and is the same on cars etc.

The above 'get around' a permanent supply, is probably the best answer.
Whatever you do, do not take the permanent supply from the vehicle start battery. :rolleye0013:
I don't think anyone is advocating taking the supply from the vehicle starting battery. :rolleye0013:

Did not say they were but if someone comes to the thread a little later on (weeks, months, years) it will stop a fool but possibly not an idiot from making the mistake. up!
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Post by Spospe Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:36 pm

I have had a rummage round the internet and found the following which claims to be the instructions for changing an X290 radio to 180 minuets:

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Hopefully this will apply to the Boxer as well.
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Post by dbroada Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:43 pm

Spospe wrote:I have had a rummage round the internet and found the following which claims to be the instructions for changing an X290 radio to 180 minuets:

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Hopefully this will apply to the Boxer as well.
From the previous comments on this thread it would appear that the Fiat has a 3 hour setting but the Pug has a 20 minute one?

I know my Fiat has ONLY the 3 hour setting.

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Post by rgermain Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:26 am

You may find this a good alternative if you want to listen to music from your phone or SD card.

Tesco Direct Miami Bluetooth Speaker £25!

I have one, small size, great sound, sd slot, usb power I/P

Just a thought,

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Post by roli Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:27 pm

Ours also stays on with the ignition on.  In the settings for the PVC radios (not coacbuilts as I understand it's a different radio) there is a tick box for 20 mins off option

Regarding the lack of a CD player and the position of the aux and USB sockets I have overcome by plugging a lead in a feeding to outside the box.  I can now plug my memory sticks with music on in the dash position 

I have also seen how someone had coupled a pc had to the socket within the box with music on

For those of you in ASOC with X290 vans ask Baz for ideas sheet 239 (might email him myself for a copy)
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Post by Bick Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:13 pm

Having just bought a 2011 reg Warwick, the infamous 20 minute cut off was an immediate bugbear and like many I've trawled the Web for a solution. By chance I tried the changing to camper mode instruction in the link further above but at point 2 found the radio screen only switched between "caravan" and "ingn" and didn't allow for any further up or down menu selection. Having tried this a few times I quit, leaving at the point "caravan" was displayed thinking that was that and that it would have to be plan B, buy a Bluetooth speaker. However, I have subsequently discovered that the radio no longer cuts out after 20 minutes so happy days! Whether it'll carry on for 180 minutes or indefinitely I don't know but so far so good: no more getting up and down to switch it back on just when your favourite guitar solo is reaching it's crescendo! Have a go folks, it worked for me.
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