Sliding door water ingress

So far we've had no repeat of the problem, I do take great care to ensure the window seal is absolutely clean and finished off with some silicone lube (spray) to stop the water getting through in the first instance. Go through this cleaning routine every couple of months.

Hello I’m at Whitby this weekend and guess what my window is doing the same only had Warwick Xl couple months so I will tackle this issue when I get home. I guess no is going to accept responsibility so I’ll post how I get on

Just checked my drain holes and the front sliding window one is blocked and water seeps down the door panel and the rear is clear , toilet window seams to be clear , I have ordered some spray compressed air of Amazon to try and clear

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Just got back will post more pictures when I’ve sorted it

That’s made a bit of a mess

My channel did not overflow, it started to seep out of the panel near the black plastic and handle and some water even came out of the rear drain but nothing in the channel near the rear drain

I have used nearly a can of compressed air and still the front drain is blocked on the sliding window on the side door , what would people try next

Sorted it was what the previous post said when windows fitted they just blocked all drains with mastic, the annoying thing is you can see that They needed to be kept clear and they just sealed the the lot
The tools I used was a Jnr hacksaw blade a flexible Stanley knife air line
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First I put gaff a tape on to protect paint work.
I cut a line across the plastic drain cover that went into bottom of the window
Then using a flexible Stanley blade slowly cut through the mastic both sides of the drain them waddle it about till it came out.  Then I used the Jnr hacksaw blade to remove the mastic to make a Drain the width of the drain cover. As you can see in the picture is the blob of mastic that blocked the drain cover.
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Then I blew out with airline replaced the Darin cover held in place with good gaffa tape
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You took off the interior panels top and bottom and the blind assembly?

I removed the window card then the frame with the blind in, you won’t get air through the drain as you can see from the pic it’s blocked solid with mastic. The whole job both drains took me around 3 hours it’s a slow job but the results works and it only cost me my time

No need to remove bottom panel

Thanks Joe a job for Friday

Is it significant that people posting in this thread about having water ingress from their windows look to have panel vans produced between 2013 and 2016?
With more recently produced vans, did A-S or possibly Autoglass change the way they refitted the windows after they'd applied the tinted film to the windows, or have I missed something?

That's a great piece of work Joe, thanks for posting.  We have a similar issue on ours, both sliding windows.

Regarding Relaxez-Vous's Q, Nick Whale has a 2018 Kingham on it's website, with one particular interior picture that shows badly stained sliding door trims.  It looks like it was caused from water ingress through the sliding window.  Quite why the trims weren't replaced before it was presented for sale is another matter - since these vans are currently flying off the shelves, they probably don't need to bother too much!

Tim

Please correct me if I’ve misunderstood things!

Are we saying that initially water is getting past the sliding window (due to them not quite sealing properly) and then has nowhere to drain because of blocked/sealed off drain holes?

I haven’t suffered from any internal window leaks or problems but I would like to keep on top of things by periodically doing some basic checks or maintenance.
What would be recommended to 
1- Keep the sliding window seal in good condition.
2- A basic test to check the drain holes are clear.
3- Any other routine checks I’ve not thought of.

Chris

My air compressor, the one we carry in the truck, 12v, came with a selection of valve adaptors for blowing up foot balls, air beds and so on. Most do, even foot pumps.

For the blXXXdy annoying one below the driver side wiper, I use one of these, I can get to 100psi, doubt if your can managed that, indeed I hope not!

Bigger drain holes would have been an easy manufacturers solution, perhaps it doesn't rain much in Sevel!

I have completed the removal of the blocked drain on the sliding window, I followed Joefox’s instructions,what a job it is ,if any body does this be very carefully as I but a little nick in the tint when cutting the plastic drain off, put something behind the drain before you cut it,

The actual plastic drain strip is not sealed to the widow apart from the bloody blob of silicone that blocks the drain.

I also used by dremal to make a bigger hollow in the plastic drain and a junior hacksaw to widen the slot in the silicone it fits in 
All secured with 3m duct tape 

I do not want to repete this job

This might be a stupid question, but it does drain to the outside - right?

If I put some water in a  jug and poured it in to the drain channel inside the van, I should see two streams of water running down the outside of the van?

And is this only an issue on the sliding door?

What about the sliding window on the offside of the van?

Yes it drains to the out side, above the handle and about 3/4s along the window,  my sliding window on the offside was clear

The problem occurs on both sliding windows. I tried clearing the drain tubes with compressed air but with only partial success. When better weather arrives I’ll perform the operation described above by Joefox and FreelanderUK.

Tim

Thanks, I'll try pouring water in (if it ever stops raining here) and see what happens!

Had problems with Peugeot sliding windows. Brand new 2019 Symbol Plus. Peugeot replaced seals on both sliding and offside windows problems continued when heavy rain and strong wind. Peugeot replaced both windows and tints the next time. Finally after 12 months of problems where Marquis had the van longer than we did, they agreed to give me a new van! Paid a little extra to get the 2020 Symbol Plus Feb 2020. Had the van (new) a few weeks and yes you have guessed it leaking windows again. Van at Marquis for 63 days whilst awaiting new windows and new material for water stained walls caused by the leaks. Picked the van up two days ago. Marquis and AutoSleeper have been sympathetic and tried to fix an obvious design fault with these sliding windows. I have given them notice that if this problem continues after this ‘latest fix’ I will be asking for a ‘full refund’ as as the vehicle is ‘not fit for purpose’! I love the  layout but will return to an Adria and go for the ‘Adria Twin’ where the windows open outwards on the Fiat Base. The only other option is to go for the automatic ‘Symbol Plus’ which is on the Fiat base vehicle but of course several thousand pounds more.

Thanks to this thrad I found a problem with the drains on my 2014 Warwick XL. Youd think that they would have been fixed by now, but I was promted to look at them as I'm about to install a sliding glass in one of the rear door windows and was made aware of how the drain works. So I checked the side door of our van, which we bought earlier this year, and sure enough any water that you put down the drain holes just collected with the existing water that was being suspended above the window seal and was just about overflowing the lip of the window cutout and about to drain in to the van interior.

I made a tool by cutting the end of a junior hacksaw blade at an angle to make a pointy saw blade and then, after protecting the paintwork on the outside, I pushed the saw blade down along the face of the internal rectangular drain tube and out through the seal material. Once through, I was able to saw up and down and side to side and remove enough material from the seal to make an effective drain - both on the front and rear drain holes of the side door. I still have the toilet window to do, as both windows have been bonded in the same way with blocked drains of course. Unbelievably poor workmanship, it should be obvious that those need to be kept free.

To do the work on y side door I removed the trim and the blinds and holders - what a bodge job they were! Barely secured in, no wonder they rattles like hell. Who on earth screws a self tapping screw just into thin hardboard without using a proper retainer? I uprated everything, added foam and tape, more fixings and extra brackets, and am looking forward to driving it next and seeing how much noise has been reduced in that area.

We have had this problem for 4 years. As one looks at the window from the outside, the rear drain appears to work well. The problem is with the front drain and the rear up stance of the van means that this is the drain under the most pressure. I have found that if I go to my small local garage they can disconnect the inflator from their air line and they then connect a small air gun to the air line, then I can blow the blockage away. I need to do this every couple of months.

Another method which I have set up this week, as the problem is back, involves setting uo a capillary drainage system. I have used this system to drain water off the roof that stands up there because all the roof lights up there block the drainage channels on the roof.

I have cut a 2 inch wide strip off a duster. I have gently tucked one end into the space below the window opener, where I could see water that was not draining away. The strip of duster becomes wet and water is drawn away from the opener. It is the same principle that is used for watering plant pots. So far it is apparently working. Obviously driving with the duster in place might well be a problem but then the rear drain comes into play.