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Post by jennyandpeter Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:17 pm

After finding the nimbus thread so helpful and after looking at Roland's van I thought that I would like to carry on in the same direction.

We picked up Hetty at the weekend and said goodbye to Dougal.

Things I have found out so far 

The  shower brackets holding up the shower-rail are broken but are no longer available from autosleeper.
If your vehicle battery does not register on the EC51 control panel check the fuse seating behind the driver's seat, fixed mine. 
Radio is not very good, so fitting a sony head unit parts needed  
1 x SONY patch lead for 29 series steering control - (29-008)    £3.99 (each)
1 x Fiat Ducato, Citroen Relay Steering control  - (29-666)   £24.99 (each) from these people [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Going to try Connects2
CT27AA136 Universal DAB DAB+ SMB Aerial Antenna DAB Splitter for Installation
of DAB Stereo
from amazon for neatness.

Glass shield by the cooker is daft, rattles and prevents the seat going back, ordered a
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Post by jennyandpeter Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:05 pm

Heat shield fitted  fits perfectly,
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Post by inspiredron Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:55 am

jennyandpeter wrote:
Radio is not very good, so fitting a sony head unit parts needed  
1 x SONY patch lead for 29 series steering control - (29-008)    £3.99 (each)
1 x Fiat Ducato, Citroen Relay Steering control  - (29-666)   £24.99 (each) from these people [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Going to try Connects2
CT27AA136 Universal DAB DAB+ SMB Aerial Antenna DAB Splitter for Installation
of DAB Stereo
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Have a look at this thread on Fiat Forum
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It seems that there are CANBUS isssues with changing the radio. I also considered it but that thread put me off, particularly as I would also have needed to buy the radio - I gather you already have the Sony.

PS  Found another relevant thread:
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PPS  I think you will need 29-666CAN £64.99 (assuming it will work - and I would email them first after reading the two threads!)
Hope it helps.


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Post by jennyandpeter Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:36 pm

The version I have said it went up to 2011 but I think you are right I will try the canbus version and see how it goes.
I do have the sony unit it does hands free dab and android apps via bluetooth, so worth fitting .
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Post by inspiredron Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:11 pm

jennyandpeter wrote:The version I have said it went up to 2011 but I think you are right I will try the canbus version and see how it goes.
I do have the sony unit it does hands free dab and android apps via bluetooth, so worth fitting .
Oh dear - I read 2017+ as a van new in 2017!  I have just seen that yours is 2010!  Could be either - maybe ask them and then it's their problem if they recommend the wrong one! up!

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Post by jennyandpeter Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:04 pm

I have both sorts now and they said I could send the other one back. They did suggest it is the canbus type though.
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Post by jennyandpeter Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:23 am

Turns out 2010 models are not canbus  smile!  tried it out last night, plugged in and steering wheel controls just worked .
Need to modify the purchased surround and antenna now.
Pictures to follow.
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Post by jennyandpeter Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:58 pm

Cut out the plastic side tags to fit the new surround, fitted a voltmeter switch and USB charging points in the recess 
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As there is no place to charge phones while the ignition is off in our van. 
Not a good picture but it was getting dark, sound is fantastic with  the standard speakers.
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Post by jennyandpeter Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:26 pm

better picture 
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Post by inspiredron Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:47 pm

Nice mod - glad it worked with the cheap converter.
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Post by jennyandpeter Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:13 am

Nice weather so go some time to work on the van, washed, clayed some areas and started applying a polish.
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unused area under offside seat removed screws and re fitted with velcro.

Microwave rattles so while velcro was out.
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I had a look at a metal door stop system made in germany as the door is difficult to close from inside . £30 + £15 postage put me off. So tried velcro as a temporary measure. Works great but I do not know how robust it will be. I will make something else if needed as it is a good idea.
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Holds the door open at this position.
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Things to do 
Find a way of securing bowls and plates, the duetto had a great way can you get something similar?
Install 12v usb chargers in the rear run off the leisure battery.
Clean and polish the roof + reseal around the skylights as they do not look good.
Sort out a much better cutlery tray as the one supplied is not very good at all 
Improve the insulation. Above the cab area at the sides and the wheel arches have no insulation at all.


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Post by jennyandpeter Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:46 pm

Wheel arches with no insulation
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With 10 mm closed cell automotive foam applied 
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Removed nearside cover and fixed with Velcro, gas struts on order.
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Post by jennyandpeter Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:55 pm

gas struts fitted one side of the van very easy to do and it makes it so much easier to open. Use longer screws than they supply.

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The gas is off, the valve was fitted with the handle the wrong way round. Not a sensible place to put it though.
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Post by snow863 Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:27 am

Very interested in your door stop.
Where did you find the one in Germany?
The link in other threads doesnt seem to work and I would love to see what the "permenant" solution is meant to look like.
Could solve my problem finding a driveaway awning to fit the large doorway!

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Post by jennyandpeter Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:44 am

here you go 
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 The vecro is working just as well though and makes it a lot easier to close the door from the inside .
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Post by snow863 Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:47 am

Thanks for the link it worked too this time! Good point on ease of closing from inside think its prob wise to try your velcro method first. Will give it a shot at the weekend.
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Post by jennyandpeter Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:02 pm

We have just returned from a week away in wales in our van,things we have found out this week
The oven did rattle a lot, Clips on the top tightened and bending the clips that hold in the glass door improved things a lot.
Microwave still to noisy will have to modify the shelf to fit a different model.
Engine noisy for the first few miles but does settle down after that.
Need a way of holding plates and cups like our old duetto nothing found yet. 
Used the external gas point for the first time, safari chef 2 worked well.
Bad draft from rear doors. Handle the worst as it is next to my head will insulate rear doors and make new curtains that go down to the bed.
Cleaning out the van we found a crack in  the shower tray ! looking into ways of fixing this but there is definitely a lack of support under this area the flexing leading to the crack.
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Fitted gas struts to the offside bench. the sheet of metal over the heater was held in by 2 screws, so added 5 more 
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tightened up all the screws I could find, the bed legs were the worst. Removed the metal stay on that side as that rattled as well.
Will reseal around the shower tray as this design does not look very good.
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Still enjoying the van though and it did 37mpg with a lot of hills in the last week.


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Post by Paulmold Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:25 pm

New Warwick's have a press-studded draught strip down the rear doors join. Maybe you could make same or buy from AS. Take a look at a dealer.

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Post by jennyandpeter Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:04 pm

Will do thanks.
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Post by jennyandpeter Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:08 am

We were at the Peterborough show at the weekend and got a few ideas, the new Warwick duo has removable end panels under the bench seats, but only from the inside so defeating the object. I think it is done as a way of fitting a wooden panel to the metal frame rather than a usable option. 
 Removed the draw as it does not use a 1/4 of the available area, removed end panel and fixed with velcro. 

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Now large area available for chairs and ramps accessible from the outside 
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I will refit draw front with piano hinge as on the other side.

Next thing see how much the new light fittings on the warwick are as it will not be hit by the toilet door.
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Post by Vxaero Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:30 pm

I very much appreciate your posts. I'm a first time van owner, 2010 Warwick Duo. Had the van for 2 months and had a good first trip to the Geneva motor show. I assumed that the door catching on the light was a one off that affected just mine. Please keep on with the updates.
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Post by jennyandpeter Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:20 pm

Thanks for the endorsement vxaero, I like to get things working how we want then to. 
The new warwick duo has low profile lights the same as
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but without the blue option, I have ordered one to see how it fits .
Piano hinge ordered for the draw front. 
Next thing is a bit of extravagance, a custom made leather steering wheel from here,   http://royalsteeringwheels.com/offer/
On a van costing £50,000 new, a hard plastic steering wheel bugs me. So will order something like this 

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Post by jennyandpeter Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:48 pm

I have been on ebay this week 
Bike rack purchased of a type I have not seen on a van yet, will fit tomorrow .
Front insulated screen , need to pick it up.
Piano hinge arrived to fit to draw front, will fit over the weekend.
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Post by jennyandpeter Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:08 pm

Bike rack fitted , rh door opens ,I will have to make an adapter plate to drop the whole thing two inches and then the other door will open . the whole thing tip's backwards. 
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I did not like the ones that clamp on the rear door and wanted onw we could take off and store internally.
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Post by jennyandpeter Mon May 01, 2017 4:42 pm

Removed near side end panel so we can get the bbq out from outside the van
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Had a look at the insulation in the rear doors and while not as bad as some I have seen pictures of it was only in the parts you can see in the image  
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Inside of door covered with 10 mm closed cell automotive foam 
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