Safety Board when carrying bikes
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Safety Board when carrying bikes
I heard that the red and white diagonal board fitted when carrying bikes has to be made of aluminium if travelling in Italy. Spoke to my local caracampshop here in Plymouth and they say it is nonsence Any comment pse
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Re: Safety Board when carrying bikes
shelldrake wrote:I heard that the red and white diagonal board fitted when carrying bikes has to be made of aluminium if travelling in Italy. Spoke to my local caracampshop here in Plymouth and they say it is nonsence Any comment pse
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sorry but Italian isn't my strong point. however I did see the word metallica!!!!anyone translate pse
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Re: Safety Board when carrying bikes
shelldrake wrote:sorry but Italian isn't my strong point. however I did see the word metallica!!!!anyone translate pse
If you open it in Google and right click, you get the option to translate
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Read it
having read Article 164 Para 2 it states "NORMALLY sheet metal" As I plan to purchase one at the NEC I will probably get the metal one anyway (as long as it's not TOO expensive) Thanks again
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Re: Safety Board when carrying bikes
Evening all.
The answer is that the plastic one has four round reflectors, ( 1 each corner) which is now not acceptable in Italy.
The metal one is reflective over its whole surface which meets current Italian law.
This came up in a thread on mhf recently.
A search will turn up more detailed info.
Davy
The answer is that the plastic one has four round reflectors, ( 1 each corner) which is now not acceptable in Italy.
The metal one is reflective over its whole surface which meets current Italian law.
This came up in a thread on mhf recently.
A search will turn up more detailed info.
Davy
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Re: Safety Board when carrying bikes
I wonder IF they will be selling them without the reflectors at NEC next week
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Hi all,
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Here is the link to the info on metal versus plastic signs for use in Italy, worth reading.
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Here is the link to the info on metal versus plastic signs for use in Italy, worth reading.
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Re: Safety Board when carrying bikes
Hi there,
I am not all that sure, but my understanding of EU Vehicle Law is that if something is acceptable in one EU country then vehicles registered in that country may travel to other EU countries WITHOUT modification.
Therefore, as I don't need to fit any reflective device to my bike-rack in the UK (assuming that the overhang is less than 1 metre and does not obscure the number-plate) I do not have to modify it when I visit ("visit" being the key word) another EU country.
Am I right?
Best regards,
I am not all that sure, but my understanding of EU Vehicle Law is that if something is acceptable in one EU country then vehicles registered in that country may travel to other EU countries WITHOUT modification.
Therefore, as I don't need to fit any reflective device to my bike-rack in the UK (assuming that the overhang is less than 1 metre and does not obscure the number-plate) I do not have to modify it when I visit ("visit" being the key word) another EU country.
Am I right?
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Re: Safety Board when carrying bikes
Hi there,
I am resurrecting this thread because no-one has told me I am wrong and (especially on this Forum!) that worries me.
The advice given on the Caravan Club is:
In Spain and Italy any overhanging loads must be indicated by a square panel measuring 50cm x 50cm with reflectorised red and white diagonal stripes which can be purchased from Fiamma stockists. Panels are available in aluminium and plastic and in Spain you can use either however, in Italy the panel must be aluminium.
The reason I have highlighted the words "any overhanging loads" is because within UK legislation (Regulation 82[7] Road Vehicles [Construction and Use] Regulations 1986) overhanging loads front and back have to be MORE than one metre before any warning sign is required AS LONG AS the lights and number-plates are not obscured.
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If you can find anywhere that says these Regulations aren't valid in the EU please let me know.
In the meantime, as I fully comply with UK Regulations and I am driving a UK registered vehicle visiting another EU country, I can't see that there is any need for the warning signs.
In my case, doubly so as I am also towing a trailer 90% of the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best regards,
I am resurrecting this thread because no-one has told me I am wrong and (especially on this Forum!) that worries me.
The advice given on the Caravan Club is:
In Spain and Italy any overhanging loads must be indicated by a square panel measuring 50cm x 50cm with reflectorised red and white diagonal stripes which can be purchased from Fiamma stockists. Panels are available in aluminium and plastic and in Spain you can use either however, in Italy the panel must be aluminium.
The reason I have highlighted the words "any overhanging loads" is because within UK legislation (Regulation 82[7] Road Vehicles [Construction and Use] Regulations 1986) overhanging loads front and back have to be MORE than one metre before any warning sign is required AS LONG AS the lights and number-plates are not obscured.
You can read the whole lot on:
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If you can find anywhere that says these Regulations aren't valid in the EU please let me know.
In the meantime, as I fully comply with UK Regulations and I am driving a UK registered vehicle visiting another EU country, I can't see that there is any need for the warning signs.
In my case, doubly so as I am also towing a trailer 90% of the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best regards,
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which paragraph
Can you pse tell me the paragraph you are referring to as I don't have a spare weekend to read the Regulations Only kidding.
I use the red/white board as
a. I have one
b. no reason not to.
I use the red/white board as
a. I have one
b. no reason not to.
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Re: Safety Board when carrying bikes
I was told by a dealer in Germany in the summer that these marker boards would be required in France next season.
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