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Post by MickyG Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:52 am

Hi,
I replaced the front brake pads around 4000 miles ago but the brakes still feel spongy. Is this normal for a 1994 T4 Topaz? Is there a way to improve brake performance?
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Post by Caraman Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:58 am

When was the brake fluid last replaced.  It should be replaced every 2 years.  Has the sponginess set in since it’s last MOT?
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Post by Roopert Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:31 am

As a generalisation, if the vehicle is anything other than vintage/classic, the brakes should never feel spongy. I've driven T4s and the brakes were firm on the examples I drove. The original brakes should not need improving if they are working to original factory standard (though of course most had no ABS - but that's not a simple retro-fit option).

Typical things that can cause sponginess: partial failure of one of the flexible pipes, where the inner part fails and causes the outer sleeve to "balloon". Partial loss of servo assistance. Seizing of a sliding mechanism on single-piston calipers (resulting in the caliper only actually pushing on one side of the disk). Failure of a slave cylinder seal on systems with rear drums (often takes a while for leaking fluid to appear externally). Slight seal failure on master cylinder. No doubt there are other things that are less likely.

Typically, old fluid should not result in a spongy pedal under normal driving conditions (but may do under repeated very heavy braking).
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Post by MickyG Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:51 am

Thanks Caraman,
I assume the brake fluid was changed when the new pads were installed 2 years and 4000 miles ago - but I can’t be sure. MOT in NI are government run and the brake efficiency at the last test was around 60%.
Thanks Roopert,
To me, the brakes have always been spongy since I bought the van three years ago, so part of my problem is me not knowing what “normal” brakes on a T4 should be like. That’s a very comprehensive list of issues to look at and a good place to start investigating.
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