X250 vans corrosion resistance

Just wondered how the earlier versions of the later design boxer van conversions are standing up to the English climate as they are starting to age? Does any one look underneath their van or get any advisories at Mot time?
Keen to know the areas to watch and maybe put in place any preventative measures.

My 2010 (built in 2009) has never had an advisory in the 5 years I've owned it. Even my underslung tank isn't showing any signs of corrosion.

I was told these Peugeot etc Van's are expected to have a short working life and because of this the rust proofing is not brilliant. Not sure how true this is‍� we've just done the whole of the underside of our Kemmerton XL with Lanoguard, a lanolin based alternative to wax oil. It's very easy to apply and seems excellent, time will tell.

Did you do it with any special kit? Thanks

Hi Toffee
I got the spray head with it that fits on the 2 litre container and it worked really well. Took about an hour. Really simple

Went to look at a 2008 LWB Panel van conversion on the X250 Dycato and saw this terrible rust where rear wing joins sill. Drivers side.

Was asking £28k for Van and 80,000 miles. Hadnt shown a[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] closeup photo of drivers side in ad.. Needless to say we made our excuses and walked. 

It was a dealer too !

Andyhardie wrote:I was told these Peugeot etc Van's are expected to have a short working life and because of this the rust proofing is not brilliant. Not sure how true this is‍� we've just done the whole of the underside of our Kemmerton XL with Lanoguard, a lanolin based alternative to wax oil. It's very easy to apply and seems excellent, time will tell.

Andy, 

Did you do any prep work on the underside before applying the Lanoguard ?  I’ve got a delivery arriving tomorrow and keen to get it applied, but expecting to have to jet wash the underside and allow it to dry off first.

My garage which does my undersealing has it in his garage on a Friday (hopefully dry journey there) afternoon and cleans it Monday, thereby knowing it's bone dry.

Also removes wheels and if any, wheel arch liners, on Friday too...

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IanH wrote:My garage which does my undersealing has it in his garage on a Friday (hopefully dry journey there) afternoon and cleans it Monday, thereby knowing it's bone dry.

Also removes wheels and if any, wheel arch liners, on Friday too...

Thanks Ian

Toffee
First the under side of the van needs a pressure wash 
When it’s dried you will see lots of places that have no under seal ref stone chip.
The main places is inside the box sections and remove all the rubber round plugs that you will see from under the van looking out at the side of the van  .this goes to the bottom seals and is very important as this is a rust spot from the inside out and does get lots of condensation from being used as a camper .the wax I use I heat up and spray on and in all the box sections and in the rubber blank holes and then refit all the rubbers when finished

Mine used 19 LTRs of hot waxoyl. Every sealed cavity was also sprayed, even some with no bungs. They were drilled and are both sprayed and sealed with bungs now.

Started off as good as you get,. Virtually no, even surface rust, that's why I bought it, will outlive me now!!

It absolutely has to be bone dry, imho

As you say Ian I said the same on my kemerton xl post I will not see the benefit other then may get a better price when I sale but will help the life of the camper

Washed off the underside and applied two cans of ACF50 to every nook and cranny when we bought the (pre Duo) Warwick about 6 years ago. Still looks good underneath however always on the lookout for tell tale signs of rust.

Kingham wrote:

Andyhardie wrote:I was told these Peugeot etc Van's are expected to have a short working life and because of this the rust proofing is not brilliant. Not sure how true this is‍� we've just done the whole of the underside of our Kemmerton XL with Lanoguard, a lanolin based alternative to wax oil. It's very easy to apply and seems excellent, time will tell.

Andy, 

Did you do any prep work on the underside before applying the Lanoguard ?  I’ve got a delivery arriving tomorrow and keen to get it applied, but expecting to have to jet wash the underside and allow it to dry off first.

Sorry, only just seen this. No in a word van was dry and clean underneath so just sprayed it on.
It seems really good so far. Apologies for the delay. PM me by all means

When we had a 2003 Transit based Duetto at least twice I used my small air compressor to spray Waxoyl, it needed to be diluted with paraffin to make it thin enough to make it deliverable from a spray gun that had a long nozzle with red canister, part of a kit that I bought from a local motor spares shop long since also evaporated, mostly it's only Halfords or Amazon where you can by this stuff today.

What rusted on our Duetto were the edges of the rear wheel arches, nothing much but noticeable enough to the salesman when we were doing a trade-in. It didn't make any difference to the deal, and furthermore my Waxoyl treatments didn't touch the wheel arch areas. Perhaps if I'd paid more attention to the fitting of rear mudguards this might have helped. Whether I would have got a better trade in price, it's probably unlikely.

As I wasn't in future happy about me spraying and inhaling paraffin and Waxoyl vapour and my age, I got our Kemerton XL treated by a nationally recognised rust proofer.

Just had £3ks worth of welding done on my 2000 Peugeot Boxer AS Harmony. Failed its MOT on a small hole near the NS spring hanger at the back. Ended up having most of the rear valance / cross member replaced along with both back corners. NSF jacking point  replaced as that was made of cheese..... Get a bad one and they are really bad......

ianm67 wrote:Just had £3ks worth of welding done on my 2000 Peugeot Boxer AS Harmony. Failed its MOT on a small hole near the NS spring hanger at the back. Ended up having most of the rear valance / cross member replaced along with both back corners. NSF jacking point  replaced as that was made of cheese..... Get a bad one and they are really bad......

But that's not an x250, it's an x244. 

Perhaps you could introduce yourself here as requested when you registered.....

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Wow... How not to make someone feel welcome. Don't worry I won't be back......

Not very harmonious then......................

........and all that angst could have been avoided by reading the guidance to new members. 

In fairness to ianm67, the requirement to "Introduce yourself here" is, frankly, odd.

This is the first forum that I ever encountered with the "requirement", and I've never seen one since either!

Personally, I think it should be a "nice to do" rather than a mandatory requirement, because the one thing it seems to do is get people's backs up. For no particularly good reason, that I can fathom...

Just putting the idea forward: perhaps now is the time to reconsider whether we should be enforcing this "requirement" quite so rigorously?

Roopert wrote:In fairness to ianm67, the requirement to "Introduce yourself here" is, frankly, odd.

This is the first forum that I ever encountered with the "requirement", and I've never seen one since either!

Personally, I think it should be a "nice to do" rather than a mandatory requirement, because the one thing it seems to do is get people's backs up. For no particularly good reason, that I can fathom...

Just putting the idea forward: perhaps now is the time to reconsider whether we should be enforcing this "requirement" quite so rigorously?

All forums I am on have a section for new joiners to introduce them selfs, it’s just courtesy in my eyes to introduce before jumping on a topic and asking questions , most ask and don’t even come back as they post on every forum going and get an answer else where ,

Make it can not post anywhere till an introduction is posted .

Back on topic

Not seen as a requirement but being polite, dont think many of us would join a conversation being held by complete  strangers in a pub etc and start with a specific question, get an answer then walk away without responding which often happens here

Also very frustrating the vast majority of questions asked already have comprehensive threads and answers already on the forum and use of search facility or scrolling through factsheets etc would provide a good foundation to answer the query before asking supplementary questions

I have never joined a forum over past decade or so without hav8ng courtesy to introduce myself, always been made to feel welcome

Possibly should have posted this reply under Grumpy Old Men section

I have no issue being polite with people. I was rather suprised at the abrupt tone of the response from Paulmold which was far from welcoming or polite. He's obviously very important based on his huge post count. I wasn't even asking a question, I just made the mistake of making a contribution to a post about corrosion issues on my van and immediately got jumped on. Lesson learnt I guess.

Ianm67 - apologies if my response came across as abrupt. We have so many new members who , as Freelanded said, ask a question without saying hello and disappear never to be seen again,  this has happened a lot just lately. 
It could be good if you were to start a thread on areas of the x244 model that need careful checking before purchase , this could save a lot of heartache and money for the inexperienced.

And by the way, I'm not important,  just been here for 12 years and probably over half my posts were a welcome to new members during the first years of this forum.