Re: Waste water

by Lorfal Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:21 am

Another vote for simple stuff....keep it easy and cheap.....collapsible bucket. If on a site for a few days we empty waste every day with bucket just to keep it down. We use van shower a lot.....our waste smells lovely lol

by StewPotch Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:35 am

bikeralw wrote:..........as I never usually know where my next port of call is going to be, I always travel with a full fresh and empty waste...........

by Dave 418 Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:11 pm

We bought one of the 25 litre waste water containers that looks like a Jerry can laid on its side. It will fit under the waste tap on our Rienza. We are lucky to have room to store it in the side locker.
If we are staying longer than two nights using our shower etc we some times use serviced pitches making the waste container redundant. The pitch we had on the Rhine at Rudesheim meant we were couldn't move because we were on concrete blocks but there was a water tap near enough to reach with our longest hose. I put the waste container under the tap and emptied it before it got too heavy. A slight bonus using the waste container during the hot weather this summer it meant no smells from the waste water.

by Paulmold Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:00 pm

I've posted this photo before. It gives a clearer picture of how high various containers are. You can't make water flow uphill (although if the waste tank is pretty full it will drain to the level of the recepticle) so a bucket may be ok for a coachbuilt but not great for a van conversion with a flexible emptying hose.

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by mam0809 Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:12 pm

Kemerton-bath wrote:We use a small bucket that collapses flat for storage. If we’re on site for a few days then a few bucket loads thrown into the nearest hedge does the trick.

I hope you are joking about throwing it in the hedge!? thats a sure way to cause bad smells and encourage scavengers around the site .

by Paramedic Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:41 pm

mam0809 wrote:
Kemerton-bath wrote:We use a small bucket that collapses flat for storage. If we’re on site for a few days then a few bucket loads thrown into the nearest hedge does the trick.
I hope you are joking about throwing it in the hedge!? thats a sure way to cause bad smells and encourage scavengers around the site .

On several CL sites, we have been encouraged by the owners to empty grey waste directly around shrubbery etc.

by Dbvwt Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:45 pm

Paulmold wrote: W:smile!: I've posted this photo before. It gives a clearer picture of how high various containers are. You can't make water flow uphill (although if the waste tank is pretty full it will drain to the level of the recepticle) so a bucket may be ok for a coachbuilt but not great for a van conversion with a flexible emptying hose.

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Paul, don’t want to question your undoubted knowledge but...the 10l bucket I posted right at the beginning of this thread fits perfectly under my Symbol (fully extended) so I would imagine would fit under any PVC.
Obviously, we all have different vans with different storage capabilities and most have worked out what works for them.
I’m still in the keep it simple corner!!

by Dbvwt Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:55 pm

On several CL sites, we have been encouraged by the owners to empty grey waste directly around shrubbery etc

I’ve encountered the same frequently in my campervan days. If you stay on the ‘proper’ campsites then I’m sure this practice is frowned upon but not by many sites.

Ever thought about where the grey waste in the boating community goes??

by Paulmold Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:00 pm

Dbvwt wrote .'Paul, don’t want to question your undoubted knowledge but...the 10l bucket I posted right at the beginning of this thread fits perfectly under my Symbol (fully extended) so I would imagine would fit under any PVC.
Obviously, we all have different vans with different storage capabilities and most have worked out what works for them.
I’m still in the keep it simple corner!!

I don't doubt it fits under the sill but can the emptying hose be lowered enough to drain the tank?

by Dbvwt Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:07 pm

Fair point, I guess it depends on how much water you have to drain?

I’m a complete novice but so far draining off every morning hasn’t filled the bucket.
Obviously so many variables and quite possibly come summer I’ll be eating my words smile!

by Tinwheeler Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:11 pm

Paramedic wrote:
mam0809 wrote:
Kemerton-bath wrote:We use a small bucket that collapses flat for storage. If we’re on site for a few days then a few bucket loads thrown into the nearest hedge does the trick.
I hope you are joking about throwing it in the hedge!? thats a sure way to cause bad smells and encourage scavengers around the site .
On several CL sites, we have been encouraged by the owners to empty grey waste directly around shrubbery etc.

It’s quite common to do this on CLs and similar small sites in my experience. Some have no other drainage facility but the owners will always tell you what they want you to do.

by harrysp Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:28 pm

Tinwheeler wrote:
Paramedic wrote:
mam0809 wrote:
I hope you are joking about throwing it in the hedge!? thats a sure way to cause bad smells and encourage scavengers around the site .
On several CL sites, we have been encouraged by the owners to empty grey waste directly around shrubbery etc.

It’s quite common to do this on CLs and similar small sites in my experience. Some have no other drainage facility but the owners will always tell you what they want you to do.

Have also been asked to do this on CLs.

by Paulmold Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:30 pm

harrysp wrote:
Tinwheeler wrote:
Paramedic wrote:
On several CL sites, we have been encouraged by the owners to empty grey waste directly around shrubbery etc.

It’s quite common to do this on CLs and similar small sites in my experience. Some have no other drainage facility but the owners will always tell you what they want you to do.
Have also been asked to do this on CLs.

It's almost standard procedure on C&CC temporary holiday sites.

by rogerblack Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:46 pm

Pouring onto the hedge roots is also standard practice on our front drive if we arrive home with contents in the waste tank, just as domestic dishwater and bath water go on the lawn/flowerbeds during the summer, especially when we have all-too-frequent hosepipe bans.

Never had any problem with bad smells or scavengers . . .

by Dave 418 Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:00 pm

The site owner at Craven Arms said "chuck you're grey water in the hedge bottom to keep the weeds down. shrugg

by bikeralw Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:31 pm

More continental sites than ever advise emptying buckets of grey water onto hedge bottoms, especially in hot countries where water might get scarce in summer.
Most responsible van owners don't let kitchen scraps go into their tanks, so it's only slightly soapy water which does no harm at all.
Al.

by Dave 418 Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:39 pm

Slightly off topic but from hiring narrow boats I rembered asking about emptying the grey water when we took over the boat. The guy doing the hand over took great delight in telling me that waste water went into the canal. Maybe it helped keep the weeds down.
I have noticed some caravan owners have a bucket by there tow hitch. I presume this is for fire safety not waste water. Maybe a club rule, the last ones I saw were all the same colour.

by Lorfal Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:47 pm

Collapsible bucket does fine under fairford , let it squish down a bit when draining into, so flexible . Yeah it might mean an extra trip to the drain....or hedge lol , cos it might only be 3/4 full.....so one extra trip , keep it daily and take 2 buckets , not much more space taken. Job done!

by Toffee Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:38 am

We use the toilet cassette

by bikeralw Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:15 am

Toffee wrote:We use the toilet cassette

Bet you get some strange looks when you empty a toilet cassette down the grey water drain...
Al.

by Dbvwt Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:46 am

What about one of these for draining down small amounts (not sure if it is a similar size to the ones in the pictures Paul put up but at 10 litres should be compact).
Obviously it lays flat and the built in tray should keep splashes to a minimum. I realise the holes look quite small but may work if you just want to drain smaller amounts.
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by Beetee Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:19 am

When on a CL we have often been asked to pour grey water under hedge or around trees, like Al we are very fussy about what goes into waste tank. We use a bucket which started life as a nappy bucket so has done good service: it travels in the bathroom carrying kettle and anything else that fits in. Useful for keeping bottles upright that might not fit in the fridge.

by inspiredron Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:27 pm

I carry an oblong 10l bucket in the seat locker, filled with the Whale fresh water hoses and adaptors. I also carry a 10l Jerry can flat on the floor in the toilet compartment for fresh water. The bucket was from the £1 shop.

by StewPotch Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:46 am

Beetee wrote:.....we are very fussy about what goes into waste tank....We use a bucket which started life as a nappy bucket ......it travels in the bathroom carrying kettle......

Really???

by Guest Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:01 am

Dbvwt wrote:
Paulmold wrote: W:smile!: I've posted this photo before. It gives a clearer picture of how high various containers are. You can't make water flow uphill (although if the waste tank is pretty full it will drain to the level of the recepticle) so a bucket may be ok for a coachbuilt but not great for a van conversion with a flexible emptying hose.

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Paul, don’t want to question your undoubted knowledge but...the 10l bucket I posted right at the beginning of this thread fits perfectly under my Symbol (fully extended) so I would imagine would fit under any PVC.
Obviously, we all have different vans with different storage capabilities and most have worked out what works for them.
I’m still in the keep it simple corner!!

Hi Likewise just use a collapsible bucket with my Symbol.

I did buy one of the black containers (the one with the red cap) with my initial enthusiasm but if filled is heavy and awkward and if carried in the van leaks around the cap seals... not much but enough to be annoying.

Rob