Tinted Windows

by Jarjar Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:39 pm

Daft as it may seem, l have only recently opened the blinds on my side windows ( they rattle if l travel with them open) in the heat of the south of France beachball

I have a 'blister' on both windows, don't know if they have always been like this or if the heat has caused it. Anyone experienced this before? I don't anticipate doing anything until l return home but do l need to hassle my dealer again or can l fix it?

by Gromit Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:46 pm

The blinds may have caused the blister??

If I correctly envisage what you've done, keeping them closed will have trapped the air between them and the window, and created a very effective oven.

For this reason there's usually a warning sticker on the Heki roof vent to advise against fully closing the blinds unless the vent is open. You may have par boiled your windows.

by Sally Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:02 am

For those of us who only travel in the UK, does the advice to raise all the blinds while in storage to prevent fade on the furnishings and seat material still stand. Or is that something I’ve imagined.

Sally
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by Gromit Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:35 am

I don't know Sally.

I was simply taking the instructions for the blinds on Heki roof lights and applying it to the window blinds, which appeared to present a similar situation.

I don't know if that was how Jarjar managed to cook his windows, but it was worth mentioning for him to check - just in case.

by Sally Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:58 am

Gromit wrote:I don't know Sally.

I was simply taking the instructions for the blinds on Heki roof lights and applying it to the window blinds, which appeared to present a similar situation.

I don't know if that was how Jarjar managed to cook his windows, but it was worth mentioning for him to check - just in case.

What do you mean you don’t know. There are several people on here that I expect to know everything, and you are one of them hugegrins

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Sally
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by Gromit Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:11 pm

You say the nicest things! :0_blush:

I don't know where the advice originated to leave the blinds raised in order to avoid fading. That's why I'm hesitant.

I know it's very commonly quoted, but is there a risk of cooking the window bubbles like Jarjar's?? A lot of recommendations are blithely made without really thinking them through, and this may be one of them?

The outsides of the blinds are silvered, so they won't absorb much energy, and therefore should not themselves get hot, but I only ever give or repeat advice if I'm pretty sure it is accurate.

Common sense suggests a compromise - raise them, but not quite to the top so the air can circulate.

Or draw the curtains instead. They may well fade, but only on the outside, and replacing them in a few years will be a lot cheaper than replacing a delaminated window.

by daisy mae Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:53 pm

Off topic but related,

when travelling the little rubber ear plugs fit in the blind casing and stops the rattles. or anything else will work if it fills the gab, just remember to remove when using.

by Quilter Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:19 pm

In very hot weather we always leave the blinds partially raised for exactly the same reasons Gromit mentions.

To keep the inside of the van cool cover the outside of the side or back window ( ie the window facing the sun) with one of those silvered reflective car windscreen covers. They usually have small tags on to either trap in the closed window or hang from the window latches of an open window or you can sew or peg your own on. The small clip on hooks sold for hanging tea towels etc are handy.

This is very effective for keeping the van cool and doesnt damage windows.

by Carver Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:43 pm

I too have read the Heki advice regarding blinds.
On the side windows we draw the curtains, to keep the van cool and prevent fading of the upholstery.
A friend with a caravan left his blinds drawn and caused one or more of his double glazed plastic windows to expand and crack. A very expensive repair.

Carver

by Sally Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:25 pm

I’m lucky in that all my side windows have built in blinds with silvered sides facing out. I only have curtains on the rear doors and across the cabin. It makes for a lovely neat finish all round, easy to use and very effective. These are what I draw in storage.

However, it’s taken me two trips to realise that the small curtain near the side habitation door is not in fact a privacy curtain for when I’m cooking, but is in fact a curtain for the side habitation door at night. When I realised this one morning at 4.45am when I woke because it was light, I admit to feeling a little foolish.

Sally x

by Quilter Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:31 pm

Sally wrote:I’m lucky in that all my side windows have built in blinds with silvered sides facing out. ........... These are what I draw in storage.

Sally x

Not sure if you mean you draw the curtains or the blinds in storage Sally but, if the blinds, take care not to pull them up the whole way. As Dave says, if the heat builds up between blind and window you run the risk of damaging the window. Leave a gap at the top or bottom ( depending on which way the blinds work !)

by Jarjar Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:40 pm

So it looks like i've cooked my sticky backed plastic. Has anyone replaced or removed this stuff? On another note, oh how l wish l had Heki rooflights and blinds. If the lottery comes up whilst l'm away, that's what l'll spend my money on.
Admitting l might havee foreseen the blistering of the window covering, should not the manufacture have warned me about this and instucted me on steps to take to prevent it? (Warranty claim?)

by Quilter Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:50 pm

Jarjar wrote:So it looks like i've cooked my sticky backed plastic.
.........
Admitting l might havee foreseen the blistering of the window covering, should not the manufacture have warned me about this and instucted me on steps to take to prevent it? (Warranty claim?)

Depends what the sticky backed plastic was intended for when sold I guess.

If specifically for covering plastic motorhome windows, which it might be expected would have a silvered blind over them on hot days, then, yes, you should expect to be warned. If they were for domestic glass windows where there would be plenty of ventilation and so manageable temperatures, then no.

I’d write to the manufacturers and ask what they suggest to remove the film. You dont want to damage your plastic van windows, which scratch easily and might cloud or even dissolve with some chemical solvent removers.

by Sally Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:54 pm

Quilter wrote:
Sally wrote:I’m lucky in that all my side windows have built in blinds with silvered sides facing out. ........... These are what I draw in storage.

Sally x

Not sure if you mean you draw the curtains or the blinds in storage Sally but, if the blinds, take care not to pull them up the whole way. As Dave says, if the heat builds up between blind and window you run the risk of damaging the window. Leave a gap at the top or bottom ( depending on which way the blinds work !)

Yes, I meant that I draw the blinds on the side windows.

I’m fairly sure that my windows are glass (athermic) not plastic, but I may be completely wrong. I’m sure I’ve read somewhere to pull up the blinds, which I dutifully did. It amazes me to learn that there is potential for damaging the window.

I’m assuming of course that the windows in the Sussex Duo are covered in a film and not tinted glass.

Whatever, I guess I’m driving over to the storage at the weekend to lower the blinds. Blisters, blowback, what else is there to worry about. smile!

Sally
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by Gromit Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:58 pm

Sally wrote: Blisters, blowback, what else is there to worry about.
Sally
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Gassing!

It's almost the season for it, so gird your loins and wait for the headlines!! rolleyes

by Quilter Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:06 pm

Gassing!

It's almost the season for it, so gird your loins and wait for the headlines!!

Naughty ! He means of your battery but don’t worry about that, or anything else. Enjoy your van and use it to the full.

by rogerblack Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:41 pm

If your blinds are the sprung roller type, another reason given for not leaving them continually closed for long periods is that over time the springs can weaken. It is possible to retension or replace them, I have done both over the years but it is a difficult job accessing all the screws to dismantle the cassette.
Our curtains are lined on the outside so won't fade if left closed.

by Sally Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:27 pm

Quilter wrote:
Gassing!

It's almost the season for it, so gird your loins and wait for the headlines!!

Naughty ! He means of your battery but don’t worry about that, or anything else. Enjoy your van and use it to the full.

Ha, I’m going to. There’s too much gassing on here as it is. But I’ll keep an eye out anyway hugegrins

My blinds are not a spring roller type, they are the concertina type. They simply pull up and can be left in any position. Of course, the big question is do my windows have film on, or are they coloured glass. If there’s no film, then it can’t blister.

No worries either way. My van is what I like in a man. Young, a complete mystery to me, and some distance away. lol4

Sally
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by Quilter Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:33 pm

[quote="Sally"]

Quilter wrote:

My van is what I like in a man.

Sally
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Quite ! As I said: enjoy it and use it to the full .

( I bet AUtosleepers would be able to tell you what the windows are made of )

by Gromit Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:57 pm

Quilter wrote:
Gassing!

It's almost the season for it, so gird your loins and wait for the headlines!!

Naughty ! He means of your battery but don’t worry about that, or anything else. Enjoy your van and use it to the full.

No he didn't.

Think South of France and the Royal College of Anaesthetists.

(That will get Sally guessing if she's unaware of the alleged phenomenon!)

by Constan42 Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:29 pm

Gromit wrote:The blinds may have caused the blister??

If I correctly envisage what you've done, keeping them closed will have trapped the air between them and the window, and created a very effective oven.

For this reason there's usually a warning sticker on the Heki roof vent to advise against fully closing the blinds unless the vent is open. You may have par boiled your windows.

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by Constan42 Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:52 pm

Sally wrote:
Gromit wrote:I don't know Sally.

I was simply taking the instructions for the blinds on Heki roof lights and applying it to the window blinds, which appeared to present a similar situation.

I don't know if that was how Jarjar managed to cook his windows, but it was worth mentioning for him to check - just in case.
What do you mean you don’t know. There are several people on here that I expect to know everything, and you are one of them .

Sally
X

Look Sally, you have'nt quite got the hang of this game yet have you, here's what you do, you pull out your Magic Lamp from under the cupboard, you rub it three times and shout aloud in a booming voice "Abracadabra Alakazam” and boxerman Genie Frank is guarenteed to show up in a puff of smoke. Sorted. Frank knows EVERYTHING.

by Paulmold Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:05 pm

Someone posted in the last week that whilst at AS factory, Peugeot vans arrived for conversions. They had plain windows so AS do the tinting. Whether that is film or a form of spraying and whether inside or out, we don't know .

by Constan42 Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:08 pm

Quilter wrote:In very hot weather we always leave the blinds partially raised for exactly the same reasons Gromit mentions.

To keep the inside of the van cool cover the outside of the side or back window ( ie the window facing the sun) with one of those silvered reflective car windscreen covers. They usually have small tags on to either trap in the closed window or hang from the window latches of an open window or you can sew or peg your own on. The small clip on hooks sold for hanging tea towels etc are handy.

This is very effective for keeping the van cool and doesnt damage windows.

by Sally Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:52 pm

Paulmold wrote:Someone posted in the last week that whilst at AS factory, Peugeot vans arrived for conversions. They had plain windows so AS do the tinting. Whether that is film or a form of spraying and whether inside or out, we don't know .

Hi Paul - So do you have your blinds up or down for long periods, fully closed or with a gap? The only reason I ask is that we have the same model.

Sally
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P.S. who knew that blinds and tints could be so interesting alittlesecret

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