The Auto-Sleeper Motorhome Owners Forum (ASOF)
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Water heating problems

+3
kenjones
steamdrivenandy
elvereater
7 posters

Go down

Water heating problems Empty Water heating problems

Post by elvereater Wed May 11, 2016 8:22 pm

I have not used my gas-driven water heater for some time and cannot start the heater up by gas. I have checked all the obvious things, but can anyone suggest something I may have overlooked, such as another gas valve, or something similar. I intend to do more wild camping this summer and won't be near electric hook-ups so I will need this working reliably.
Thanks, Elvereater
elvereater
elvereater
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 15
Joined : 2015-05-31
Member Age : 67
Location : Dorset
Auto-Sleeper Model : Topaz
Vehicle Year : 2006

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by steamdrivenandy Wed May 11, 2016 9:33 pm

Go for basics:
1. is there gas working elsewhere in the van?
2. is the gas supply to the heater turned on?
3. when you turn on the heater can you hear the igniter clicking as it tries to light the pilot?
steamdrivenandy
steamdrivenandy
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 1842
Joined : 2016-03-30
Member Age : 76
Location : On the very edge of N Staffs
Auto-Sleeper Model : None
Vehicle Year : None

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by kenjones Wed May 11, 2016 10:15 pm

Mine has a safety switch on the roof window above the heater.
If the window is open or the switch faulty the appliance won't work.
Also be sure the outside cover is removed.
kenjones
kenjones
Donator
Donator

Male

Posts : 138
Joined : 2011-04-27
Member Age : 77
Location : Shipley, West Yorkshire
Auto-Sleeper Model : T4 Topaz LE
Vehicle Year : 2004

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by Gromit Wed May 11, 2016 10:28 pm

How long have you kept trying? It can take literally minutes to purge the air out of pipes that have not been used for a long time.

OK - I know there shouldn't be any air in a sealed system, but there always is when you come to light it for the first time in ages.

Dave smile!
Gromit
Gromit
Donator
Donator

Male

Posts : 7265
Joined : 2015-03-11
Member Age : 81
Location : Worcestershire
Auto-Sleeper Model : Nuevo EK LP
Vehicle Year : 2015

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by elvereater Thu May 12, 2016 7:19 am

Thanks Gromit,

I have switched it on and off several times leaving 10 minutes between each attempt. I will try again.
The switch allows you to move from electrical mode to gas. According to the manual a green or red light is supposed to come on when you switch it to gas supply; red for failure and green for good. I cant get any light to show at all, so I was wondering whether that means either the unit is damaged or maybe a fuse has gone.
Any thoughts?
Thanks for your help

Elvereater
elvereater
elvereater
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 15
Joined : 2015-05-31
Member Age : 67
Location : Dorset
Auto-Sleeper Model : Topaz
Vehicle Year : 2006

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by elvereater Thu May 12, 2016 7:22 am

Ken Jones

Thanks for the comment on the safety switch. I will check it. Maybe thats the reason why I cannot get a light at all on the switch.

Elvereater
elvereater
elvereater
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 15
Joined : 2015-05-31
Member Age : 67
Location : Dorset
Auto-Sleeper Model : Topaz
Vehicle Year : 2006

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by elvereater Thu May 12, 2016 7:25 am

Steamdrivenandy

Q1.and 2 yes. Q3 No I cant hear any clicking at all. 
Any ideas what next?

Elvereater
elvereater
elvereater
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 15
Joined : 2015-05-31
Member Age : 67
Location : Dorset
Auto-Sleeper Model : Topaz
Vehicle Year : 2006

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by steamdrivenandy Thu May 12, 2016 7:40 am

If there's no clicking then it's not even attempting to light itself which means the electrics that activate and monitor the boiler when on gas aren't being activated. The lack of an indicator light suggests that too. So the problem isn't gas but is electric. Fuses, switches etc are all options.
steamdrivenandy
steamdrivenandy
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 1842
Joined : 2016-03-30
Member Age : 76
Location : On the very edge of N Staffs
Auto-Sleeper Model : None
Vehicle Year : None

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by elvereater Thu May 12, 2016 7:48 am

SA Andy

Thats what I am starting to think. I notice there is a switch for the heater near the main fuse board so I assume this must be it. 
Many thanks for your prompt reply. If you dont hear from me; big thanks.
Elvereater
elvereater
elvereater
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 15
Joined : 2015-05-31
Member Age : 67
Location : Dorset
Auto-Sleeper Model : Topaz
Vehicle Year : 2006

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by breakaleg Fri May 13, 2016 1:18 pm

Have you turned the master switch on for the 12 volt side ? you probably have but worth asking the question.
Pete
breakaleg
breakaleg
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 1142
Joined : 2011-06-01
Member Age : 68
Location : Birmingham
Auto-Sleeper Model : Nuevo Ek
Vehicle Year : 2021

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by inspiredron Fri May 13, 2016 4:53 pm

Have you switched the unit OFF totally. On mine if any supply (12V, 240V or Gas) fails for ANY reason and is then restored th eunit stays off until the swithch i sturned off and then on again. Good safety!

_________________
Best wishes - Ron
inspiredron
inspiredron
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 3436
Joined : 2012-06-02
Member Age : 83
Location : Ellesmere, Shropshire
Auto-Sleeper Model : Lancashire
Vehicle Year : 2012

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by Paul 300358 Fri May 13, 2016 10:20 pm

Do you have a switch on the window above the flue? I tried for 3 days to light ours last year only for the ayatollah to ask if the switch on the window made a difference. I now hear about it every time I turn the water on.
Paul 300358
Paul 300358
Donator
Donator

Male

Posts : 207
Joined : 2014-08-23
Member Age : 66
Location : Stoke-on-Trent
Auto-Sleeper Model : Symbol

Back to top Go down

Water heating problems Empty Re: Water heating problems

Post by elvereater Sun May 15, 2016 9:20 am

THanks Guys for the help.
I have sorted the problem. The prize goes to Paul, although thankfully I found it before the Ayatollah. Although the top window was shut the rubber connector between the slider and the catch had become twisted and this was just enough to prevent the contact unit from closing. Its a bad design this because when you open the window the rubber connector has to twist as the angle of the window increases and eventually it starts to wear.
What I was amazed about though was that the unit started heating first time even though I had not used it for 2 years! Auto-sleeper get most things right with a little help from our German friends.
Many thanks for all your comments
Elvereater
elvereater
elvereater
Member
Member

Male

Posts : 15
Joined : 2015-05-31
Member Age : 67
Location : Dorset
Auto-Sleeper Model : Topaz
Vehicle Year : 2006

Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum