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Post by camperdai Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:42 pm

Can someone please tell me if the Topaz is classified as PLG or taxed as a heavy motorhome because mine is recorded as the latterand I cannot see reason for it
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:50 pm

Do you mean currently PHGV? If so it is cheaper than as PLG, I think.

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Post by camperdai Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:35 pm

No,my taxation class is setting me back more than double my Trident,same engine
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:55 pm

My Gloucester is PHGV, £165. 3880kg.

Sounds like your wrongly registered. Speak to DVLA.

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Post by Mayfield Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:01 pm

My topaz, 2370cc PLG 6 month rate £129.65, 12 month £235 hope this helps.  up!
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Post by camperdai Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:22 pm

These rates both are very agreeable£500+ is a lot for a van
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Post by KMRTOPAZ Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:29 am

I have a 2005 registered 2.5 litre Topaz. The V5 describes it as "Taxation class - Diesel car"
I have just paid £290 for 12months tax.
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Post by shargrea Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:36 am

I have a 2001 2.4D Topaz, and the tax is £235 a year.
I haven't got the V5 to hand, but I think it says PLG.
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Post by Paulmold Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:25 am

This article explains a lot...

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Post by Dave 418 Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:37 am

tap_fingers I see DVLA havnt got there finger out yet. They got our Duetto wrong. The V5 said van so I made sure I checked the Rienza. It is classed as PLG , £235.00, Motorhome. This is a 2.4 Transit 350 base vehicle.
I thought it would be more,£290, with it being a heavier vehicle. I cant make sense of how they work out what we should be classed as and what we should pay.
When my father lost his V5 for his MGB GT they couldn't  find MG in there listings. They tried to tell him it was a kit car, special build. It took a visit to the VOSA test centre to get that sorted. That was 15 years ago. shrugg
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Post by camperdai Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:31 pm

Lots of advice, thanks for your help. I will persue the matter further with the assistance of Todds as the DVLA seem convinced they are right. Mind you if they haven,t heard or list MG I wonder how some of them find their own way to work-or maybe its the negative approach all Gov,departments are told to behave.
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Post by inspiredron Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:32 pm

Download table V149 from the DVLA website.  VED is now very complex and depends on when your Topaz was first registered. What follows assume it was first registered after 1 March 2001
From your figures of £500 plus it looks as if it is registered as a car instead of PLG Tax Class 11 (3500kg or less max weight) or PHGV Tax Class 10 if it is over 3500kg.
PLG is £235 pa, PHGV is £165 pa.
Car class 49 Band L is £500 and Band M is £515 based on CO2 emissions. The only other classes that top £500 are huge lorries.
What does your V5 say?  Mine says "Private Light Goods PLG"
Interestingly it also says that I have 5 seats including the driver - possibly because it is a 3500kg Nuevo which was originally destined to be an ES 4 berth van before it was fitted with an EK type body with two parallel side settees! 

So as no seat belts are fitted at the back does that mean that I can take 3 adult passengers - legally?  At their own risk of course!

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Post by daisy mae Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:50 pm

Answer to above is no, you cannot take rear seat passengers, if your van was before 2006 you would be able to.

My MH a 2003 VW 2.5tdi is classed on the V5 as Light Goods Vehicle and I paid £225 tax.

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Post by Dave 418 Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:21 am

scratch head This thread had me checking things. My V5 says three seats. There are no rear seat belts fitted. The Autosleeper manual says the four birth Rienza will have lap belts fitted to the rear seats.
As for the Tax, I am sure it should be £290 not £235. I will check the web site and try and suss things out. What happens if I am paying the wrong price. I bet DVLA wont own up to that one. shrugg
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Post by Peter Brown Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:28 am

inspiredron wrote:

So as no seat belts are fitted at the back does that mean that I can take 3 adult passengers - legally?  At their own risk of course!

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I prepared the document on the subject of carrying passengers in the rear in 2010, it still valid and can be read at the link above.

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Post by inspiredron Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:16 pm

I will need to look at my Certificate of conformance! I recall that I was told that myvehicle would have Whole Vehicle Type Aproval as it was easier for AS to use a chassis destined for an ES to give me 3500kg than to replate it from 3300 to 3500 - Thanks for the lin,k Peter

I have had motorhomes since 2001 and have NEVER paid as much as £290. Both were PLG.

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Post by kenjones Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:00 pm

KMRTOPAZ wrote:I have a 2005 registered 2.5 litre Topaz. The V5 describes it as "Taxation class - Diesel car"
I have just paid £290 for 12months tax.
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My 2004 T4 2.5 tdi Topaz is also a diesel car £290
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Post by DaveyP2004 Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:07 am

My 2004 T4 2.5 tdi Topaz is also a diesel car £290 - although checking on V149 today looks like it will £295 next year ;-(

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Post by kenjones Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:18 pm

DaveyP2004 wrote:My 2004 T4 2.5 tdi Topaz is also a diesel car £290 - although checking on V149 today looks like it will £295 next year ;-(
Sounds about right. I've had mine for 8 years and it's gone up every year.
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