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Post by fred22 Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:39 pm

Hi
Can someone tell me where the relays/fuses are in my 1996 Duetto please.

I am aware of the fuse box in the cab on the drivers right but it is the Relays and Fuses that connect the 12v system to the habitation area I am wanting to locate.
The leisure battery (which is not all that old) is flat so I am assuming that the relay/fuse that connects it to the vehicles charging system is at fault.
The hand book states that they are in the engine compartment but the only relay I can find is a Bosch 0332 002 156 which Bosch describe as part of the engine(Glow plugs).
Thanks in anticipation
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Post by -mojo- Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:03 am

fred22 wrote:
The hand book states that they are in the engine compartment but the only relay I can find is a Bosch 0332 002 156 which Bosch describe as part of the engine(Glow plugs).

Does a 1996 Transit diesel have glow plugs? My 1999 Mk5 didn't.

The main problem in locating these is that A-S had a habit of changing where they put them. The most common location on a Transit of that age is close to the vehicle battery - sometime the fuse is actually partially hidden behind the battery itself. I think on some models the split charge relay and fiuse is located in a (Ford installed) plastic box in that area - but that may only be in later years when Ford included a box to serve auxiliary equipment (i.e. fuses and relays for equipment added later).
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Post by brodco Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:37 am

Hi  wave

There tend to be quite a few differences even in vans of a similar age but if yours if the same as my 1997 version :
-mojo- wrote:Does a 1996 Transit diesel have glow plugs? My 1999 Mk5 didn't.
There are no glow plugs on mine either. I wouldn't worry to too much about the relay part number, relays can be used for other things.

The drivers side fuse box (the add on under the bonnet) contains the habitation and fridge relays with associated fuses. The split charge relay is located on the bulkhead directly behind the vehicle battery and is energized from the alternator.

There are no fuses fitted in the split charge relay lines. tap_fingers

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Post by -mojo- Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:00 pm

brodco wrote:
There are no fuses fitted in the split charge relay lines.

Ah yes, I must remember that. It's the fridge fuse I'm thinking of that sometimes skulks behind the battery (I think...).
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Post by Spospe Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:37 pm

fred22 wrote:I am aware of the fuse box in the cab on the drivers right but it is the Relays and Fuses that connect the 12v system to the habitation area I am wanting to locate.

The hand book states that they are in the engine compartment but the only relay I can find is a Bosch 0332 002 156 which Bosch describe as part of the engine(Glow plugs).
Thanks in anticipation
Fred

In my 1999 Duetto, the fuses and relays were in a small black plastic box, mounted slightly in front of the starter battery. The habitation battery was mounted on the passenger side of the engine compartment.

All Duettos built on the MK4 and MK5 Transits had the 2.5DI engine (either turbo, or non turbo) and none of them were fitted with glow-plugs.
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Post by fred22 Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:16 pm

Hi,
If I have not got glow plugs it might seem safe to assume the Bosch relay mounted above the starter battery is the one I am looking for.

The manual states 12v 30amp relay N/O the Bosch one is 75amp and this is the only thing that worries me.

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Post by -mojo- Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:10 pm

fred22 wrote:
The manual states 12v 30amp relay N/O the Bosch one is 75amp and this is the only thing that worries me.

Higher amp rating is (generally) no problem.
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Post by fred22 Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:19 pm

Interesting comment from Spospe.

Are the 2.5 DI and the 2.5 DI turbo the same engine with a turbo bolted on or are there other differences too?

Thanks
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Post by cyclops2 Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:45 pm

There are small differences between the 2 engines I believe. Mine was a non turbo that had a turbo fitted by TJ of Lancaster(now defunct) The fan belt is different for a start. My 1998 Duetto had the relay in the plastic box next to the vehicle battery. The relay operates when the engine is running and disconnects the interior fuse box and connects the fridge. No glowplugs its a direct injection engine, whatever that means
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Post by fred22 Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:27 pm

Thanks for all replies.

I have e-mailed Autosleeper about the relay but, as yet I have had no reply

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Post by fred22 Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:04 pm

Hi,
I have now had a reply from Autosleeper.

They inform me that I will have to contact Ford. as the relays are fitted by them prior to delivering the chassis to Autosleeper.

Cheers

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Post by roli Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:06 am

If you are going to ask a question Fred, and then go onto another forum ask the same question please rather than say the AS Forum was no help.

If you you has asked for relay connections you would have been told 87 to + on Vehicle battery  30 to + on Hab Battery, 86 to ground 85 to fridge relay,Ign/Fusebox, and Relay3 which disconnects the 12v electrical appliances from the Hab Battery whilst the vehicle is in motion.

I have a manual partly scanned for these vans which will appear in the Factsheets section as time permits
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Post by fred22 Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:20 am

Hi,
Thanks for all replies, I have discovered 2 more fuse  and an empty relay socket behind the passenger glovebox
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