Fitting a Fiamma rear warning sign board

[Bulletguy]

Last year i had some 'jobsworth' tell me about not displaying a rear warning sign on the back of my box. Had a look at these things most of which are made by Fiamma but come just as a plastic square with four holes drilled through. I wondered how they fit on a Back Box so phoned a couple of dealers to ask how they fit. 

Neither really had much idea when it came to Back Boxes as they said they are meant for cycles so suggested i screw it on......which in my opinion isn't a very clever idea as you've then got the problem of water getting in....even if using a sealant. 

Any suggestions or has anyone fitted one on their back box? 

This is the type of board in question;  [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

[-mojo-]

If both are flat and you want it there permanently, I'd use double-sided foam tape. Although supposedly by 3M (it's not) the relatively cheap stuff from China on Ebay actually works well - I stuck my rear badge back on after having it hydro-dipped, and have had no problems at all with the level of grip...

[peugeotboxer]

No Nails?

PB

[Bulletguy]

No Nails would certainly stop any potential thief!

I've since had a 'brainstormer' and think this might be an even better option;

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The box is white anyway and as long as i remember to slant the stripes in the right direction i can't see any reason why that shouldn't keep them happy!

[peugeotboxer]

The box is white anyway and as long as i remember to slant the stripes in the right direction i can't see any reason why that shouldn't keep them happy!

Then some 'jobsworth' will tell you that it should be a plate which is 50cm X 50cm    

PB

[Tengah74]

Nuts and bolts ( large washers) no problem. Not going to come loose, I hope.

[mikeyval]

I have the same question about how to mount - if you are suggesting the use of nuts and bolts, then they will have to be really big washers, because the 4 holes in my board are full size eyelets - actaully larger than those found on the hem of groundsheets/tarpaulins.
Be better if it was supplied with no holes at all and allow the buyer to choose how best to mount it, but that's down to Fiamma.
A good waterproof adhesive seems to be the best answer -- (so far) = no (more) holes for water to get in.
Regards
Mike

[Bulletguy]

The box is white anyway and as long as i remember to slant the stripes in the right direction i can't see any reason why that shouldn't keep them happy!

Then some 'jobsworth' will tell you that it should be a plate which is 50cm X 50cm    

I've got a tape measure!!  

[Bulletguy]

I have the same question about how to mount - if you are suggesting the use of nuts and bolts, then they will have to be really big washers, because the 4 holes in my board are full size eyelets - actaully larger than those found on the hem of groundsheets/tarpaulins.
Be better if it was supplied with no holes at all and allow the buyer to choose how best to mount it, but that's down to Fiamma.
A good waterproof adhesive seems to be the best answer -- (so far) = no (more) holes for water to get in.

Yes it even had a couple of accessory dealers flummoxed that i contacted....and they sell the damn things!!

The plastic or aluminium square is really made for people carrying bikes rather than back boxes. Fiamma haven't thought this one out very well at all and could easily manufacture and market an adhesive backed vinyl sheet purposely for the back boxes.

After all.....i wouldn't have thought anyone would want to drill four holes through a lid susceptible to all weathers which was manufactured with the intention of keeping water out! Sort of defeats the object imo.

[Bulletguy]

I have the same question about how to mount - if you are suggesting the use of nuts and bolts, then they will have to be really big washers, because the 4 holes in my board are full size eyelets - actaully larger than those found on the hem of groundsheets/tarpaulins.
Be better if it was supplied with no holes at all and allow the buyer to choose how best to mount it, but that's down to Fiamma.
A good waterproof adhesive seems to be the best answer -- (so far) = no (more) holes for water to get in.

Yes i even had a couple of accessory dealers flummoxed that i contacted....and they sell the damn things!!

The plastic or aluminium square is really made for people carrying bikes rather than back boxes. Fiamma haven't thought this one out very well at all and could easily manufacture and market an adhesive backed vinyl sheet purposely for the back boxes.

After all.....i wouldn't have thought anyone would want to drill four holes through a lid susceptible to all weathers which was manufactured with the intention of keeping water out! Sort of defeats the object imo.

[Bulletguy]

I have the same question about how to mount - if you are suggesting the use of nuts and bolts, then they will have to be really big washers, because the 4 holes in my board are full size eyelets - actaully larger than those found on the hem of groundsheets/tarpaulins.
Be better if it was supplied with no holes at all and allow the buyer to choose how best to mount it, but that's down to Fiamma.
A good waterproof adhesive seems to be the best answer -- (so far) = no (more) holes for water to get in

[Bulletguy]

I have the same question about how to mount - if you are suggesting the use of nuts and bolts, then they will have to be really big washers, because the 4 holes in my board are full size eyelets - actaully larger than those found on the hem of groundsheets/tarpaulins.
Be better if it was supplied with no holes at all and allow the buyer to choose how best to mount it, but that's down to Fiamma.
A good waterproof adhesive seems to be the best answer -- (so far) = no (more) holes for water to get in

And while i'm "at it".........which dumb cluck messed around to make a right hash of the forum? 

Quotes etc now getting piled into one mish mash jumbled up mess. Why can't folk leave things alone??

When it AINT BROKE........DON'T FIX IT!!!

[inspiredron]

I have the same question about how to mount - if you are suggesting the use of nuts and bolts, then they will have to be really big washers, because the 4 holes in my board are full size eyelets - actaully larger than those found on the hem of groundsheets/tarpaulins.
Be better if it was supplied with no holes at all and allow the buyer to choose how best to mount it, but that's down to Fiamma.
A good waterproof adhesive seems to be the best answer -- (so far) = no (more) holes for water to get in.

Yes it even had a couple of accessory dealers flummoxed that i contacted....and they sell the damn things!!

The plastic or aluminium square is really made for people carrying bikes rather than back boxes. Fiamma haven't thought this one out very well at all and could easily manufacture and market an adhesive backed vinyl sheet purposely for the back boxes.

After all.....i wouldn't have thought anyone would want to drill four holes through a lid susceptible to all weathers which was manufactured with the intention of keeping water out! Sort of defeats the object imo.

I don't seem to have a problem! Make sure you place the cursor outside the yellow box before you type the response.

[roli]

There are no current issues with the forum can I suggest its "operator error"

[Tengah74]

As for the washers for the nut/bolts, penny washers from hardware stores, B & Q etc.

[Jaytee]

This thread is well timed as just bought a back box and I was going to ask if it is a legal requirement to fit the 'square'. Presume it is?
Just going to fit mine with two lengths of elastic cord, job done  

[Tengah74]

apparently required if driving on the continent.

[johnnybee]

The furthest point needs to have red and white striped hazard warning on.  Does not need to be the fiamma board specifically.  I ordered: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

They worked wonders!  

[taepmk]

I believe that the official requirement for warning boards states that the diagonal stripes should face down towards the offside, so if permanently fixed cannot be changed from UK position to continental position

[Jaytee]

The furthest point needs to have red and white striped hazard warning on.  Does not need to be the fiamma board specifically.  I ordered: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

They worked wonders!  

Brilliant idea, ordered. 
Is there a specific dimension to be legal.

[Swansea Jac]

We use bungies

[peugeotboxer]

 
Is there a specific dimension to be legal.

50cm X 50cm I believe.

PB