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Post by journeyman Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:44 pm

Merry Xmas all. Off to a site near to Stonehenge for 3 nights this coming Saturday. No big deal, used the van last March/April during the late snow, but at that stage I wasn't using the water heater, also where I was staying, it was generally above freezing. Having listened to all the tips regarding winterisation…I've purchased a side filling jerry can, so the waste pipe can be left open. The other half has been briefed that we may not be using the internal water system, temp dependent….No issues there.

We have a small 700kw radiator to assist with the internal warmth and silver screens.

Question: The Toilet….If we get a sharp frost, as long as I leave the toilet door and cassette access door ajar, so the internal heat circulates, will it be ok to use it? Or are there pipes that are external and open to the elements?

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Post by Kemerton-bath Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:59 pm

Hi Journeyman,

We have a Symbol, an 09 plate and have used our van without any problems in winter.  Like you, we use a radiant heater to supplement the onboard heating and have not had a frozen loo.  As far as I can tell all the toilet plumbing is well away from the external surfaces so as long as you maintain the internal van temperature you ought to be fine.  We're off to St Davids in Pembrokeshire at the weekend so I'm hoping I'm not tempting fate!  Enjoy Stonehenge and the new visitor centre.

Tim

PS - I follow your blogs and enjoy them, glad to see someone else enjoying their Symbol in winter.
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Post by Dutto Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:03 pm

Hi there,

We have used "Petal" down to -7 degrees now and the toilet has stayed fully functional with no sign of anything freezing up or forming "slush".

We use "Formil" bio-laundry liquid in the flush tank which appears to have some "anti-freeze" qualities; and like you suggest we also leave the door to the toilet open at night so that heat from the main cabin can circulate.

Enjoy the holiday.  allthumbz 

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Post by journeyman Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:46 pm

Excellent guys, thanks for the responses. That gives me confidence.

Tim, your kind words about the blog are very much appreciated. I enjoy writing it, I aim to blog every trip.

Thanks again
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Post by Peter Brown Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:51 pm

Leaving the toilet door ajar is the key when its cold, whether you are in the van or have some heat on whilst in store to keep frost at bay. On one van I fitted a hook to the door to keep it ajar, on this one I pull a towel through to keep it open.

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Post by journeyman Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:06 pm

Thanks Peter….Instigated :-)

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Post by SteveUK Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:07 pm

journeyman wrote:..........

We have a small 700kw radiator to assist with the internal warmth and silver screens.

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Wow!  What do you use for a hook-up?  I'd love to see one you considered large!!   up! 
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Post by journeyman Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:23 pm

SteveUK wrote:
journeyman wrote:..........

We have a small 700kw radiator to assist with the internal warmth and silver screens.

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Wow!  What do you use for a hook-up?  I'd love to see one you considered large!!   up! 

Never did quite grasp decimalisation..I did of course mean 700w  Whistle1 

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Post by SteveUK Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:56 pm

Darn it! 

Thought I'd found the original nuclear family. 

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Post by Flying High Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:46 am

Hi folks,
I find any heat in the van during the winter only adds to condensation if you bring the temperature above that of the outside.
Our van is quite dry by using those rechargeable plug in the mains type units, we have 4 units running during the winter and a silver screen.

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Post by Gram Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:36 pm

Come on, Mike, give us a clue .....

What are those 'rechargeable plug in the mains type units'?

And do you need four?

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Post by Flying High Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Well that didn't work, go to Amazon and look at Mini Dehumidifiers the plug in ones that you charge indoors and the place in the van.

Sorry but the way images go on here I always forget.

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Post by Gram Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:03 pm

Got it, Mike,

They use silica gel crystals to absorb the moisture and you plug them in to dry the crystals out.

I can see why you need four.

How long do they last between plug-ins?

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Post by Flying High Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:38 pm

Normally a couple of weeks between charges but this of course depends on the amount of moisture entering the van. I alternate the charging so there are always two in the van.
BTW I have noticed water (condensation) on the bathroom window in the winter so I keep the door ajar.

Happy New Year to you all.

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