Auto Sleeper Build No's

Just a quick one folks. Not sure how many of you are aware but it would seem that being able to rely on your van build no to get information from Auto Sleepers is now not always possible.

I emailed Alan a while back and it would seem that the records for my 99 Harmony have been deleted and the build no reused for a ford ravenna

He assured me that it is perfectly normal to "re use" build no's. The moral of the story? Get your info while you still can before your van morphs into something else

I wouldnt mind but its not like she is 25 years old or anything

Ha!

Methinks this could open up all sorts of possibilities for the eBay scammers.

Makes origin of 'vans even more difficult to trace!

Bad move AS.

Mike D

1b449 wrote:Ha!

Methinks this could open up all sorts of possibilities for the eBay scammers.

Makes origin of 'vans even more difficult to trace!

Bad move AS.

Mike D

Bearing in mind i bought mine on ebay you can imagine how much i panicked when i was told she wasnt on the system. I did have a very reassuring reply tho saying she was genuine and that its not unusual for them to be re used. But yes its gonna make authenticating things VERY difficult

AutoSleepers had a fire at their depot some years ago, is it possible this information could have been lost then its a possibility

roadtonowhere wrote:AutoSleepers had a fire at their depot some years ago, is it possible this information could have been lost then its a possibility

Possible, All I got was "the data file has been deleted" either way im glad I have the original manuals etc

If you have a look at this previous thread, you will see that by quoting the build number I was able to get all the info I wanted. That vehicle was a 2000, so it would be a pity that anything before then is no longer available...

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Paul it was your post I spotted earlier today that reminded me to post about it

My Symphony is a 1997. I've never asked about my build number, perhaps I ought to see if there are any records available but if we all did that, poor Alan at AS would never get any work done. (Actually when I rang about that slightly iffy one and asked for Alan, the swichboard operator asked 'which Alan' , I hadn't a clue and just asked for the one who knows everything about Autosleepers)

roadtonowhere wrote:AutoSleepers had a fire at their depot some years ago, is it possible this information could have been lost then its a possibility

The fire was in October 1992. I'm very suprised at the suggestion that a Build Number would be re-used. My first van was a '99 Duetto and they had all the records for that.

Peter

pcb7ty wrote:

roadtonowhere wrote:AutoSleepers had a fire at their depot some years ago, is it possible this information could have been lost then its a possibility

The fire was in October 1992. I'm very suprised at the suggestion that a Build Number would be re-used. My first van was a '99 Duetto and they had all the records for that.

Peter

Can I ask how long ago you enquired about the 99 Duetto Peter? I have to say Im still suprised that people with much older vans than mine have been posting on here that they recieved all build info. I certainly dont class a 99 van as "old" I would of thought they should expect at least 15 years before a file was deleted (unless of course it was a mishap and was deleted in error) Either way im no closer to knowing what pattern my fabric is

I made enquiries regarding my 1998 build Harmony in October 2011 and got quite a lot of info, quite shocking as I found out that whilst we originally put on the road as first owners in April 1999, it actually went through AS QC in June 1998 !!
I tried to ring Alan last week about something but got no answer from his phone.

newterry wrote:I made enquiries regarding my 1998 build Harmony in October 2011 and got quite a lot of info, quite shocking as I found out that whilst we originally put on the road as first owners in April 1999, it actually went through AS QC in June 1998 !!
I tried to ring Alan last week about something but got no answer from his phone.

Hmmm given the fact that I was only a few months shy of the same length of time in between your build and enquiry (98-11) (99-13, but only just) Im even more miffed mine has been re used

I'm still surprised as Harmony's are prefixed with an 'H' , presumably a Ravenna would be prefixed with an 'R' ?

newterry wrote:I'm still surprised as Harmony's are prefixed with an 'H' , presumably a Ravenna would be prefixed with an 'R' ?

Erm even more peculiar now as mine is prefixed with a "K"

Perhaps the 'H' is coincidental that it's attached to a Harmony ? I can't remember the build numbers for my Executive and Dorset as I didn't keep copies of old records -Doh!

Maybe the letter refers to the year? My Symphony build number begins with a 'G'. It's a 1997.

I was beginning to wonder if that might be the case.

g-97 h-98 . . . . . k-99? its possible i guess

Mines K

Ordered for collection in December 1999, registered 1st Jan 2000 (sat on the drive until then)

So K would be November, which seems about right to me.

Made a part enquiry last year and build number was good!

PB

It sounds like I should of rang them in december 12 maybe, Frustrating to think I may of only just missed the deletion date. Still find it wierd that they do that tho

Harper22 wrote:g-97 h-98 . . . . . k-99? its possible i guess

Seems to be borne out by mine - late '99 and starts with a K.

I’ve been to the factory today and ascertained the following re build numbers.

P = Panel Van
J = Short Wheel Base Coachbuilt
K = Medium or Long Wheel Base Coachbuilt
C = Caravan

The numbers are serial numbers allocated sequentially as build numbers when the base vehicle chassis is ordered.

Peter

Peter Brown wrote:I’ve been to the factory today and ascertained the following re build numbers.

P = Panel Van
J = Short Wheel Base Coachbuilt
K = Medium or Long Wheel Base Coachbuilt
C = Caravan

The numbers are serial numbers allocated sequentially as build numbers when the base vehicle chassis is ordered.

Peter

That must be the current method - as said above we have panel vans with G,H,K and a coachbuilt with R.

I was told today that is the method used since start of production - its never changed. Any other prefix was not added by AS.

Peter

Peter Brown wrote:I was told today that is the method used since start of production - its never changed. Any other prefix was not added by AS.

Peter

That ties in with mine.

PB