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I've tried a dozen different email addresses that I've found through Google etc but they've all bounced back. Perhaps use the contact form to the service department that's on the website and ask them if they could forward it to the correct person or department.John McHale wrote:Has anyone got an email address for AS? I was going to email them but can't find an address anywhere. The one on their FB page has bounced as unreachable.
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Paulmold wrote:I asked the FB poster if the purpose of the kit was to improve the mounting if it was glued or whether he was simply fitting the rack himself. His answer ......
"It's to improve the mounting which is showing sings of coming adrift."
So again I ask 'why don't AS fit this at the build stage'?
I’m guessing as they are posting on FB Paul they're not forum members? shame as their contribution could be helpful here… All I know is I’m currently too scared to use my rack even with just the one bike, would be intresting to hear from any forum members that use their bike racks on vehicles with the newer recess design that Auto Sleeper started using around 2014?? onwards to balance this thread or give an alternative perspective as not everyone with this bike rack setup can be having this problem or are too worried to use theirs for fear of it failing, so if you regularly use yours with no issue then please do comment?
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I think the change happened later than 2014. 2018 maybe or perhaps the 2019 vans were the first to have it just as they were the first to have the EC700.CC wrote:
I’m guessing as they are posting on FB Paul they're not forum members? shame as their contribution could be helpful here… All I know is I’m currently too scared to use my rack even with just the one bike, would be intresting to hear from any forum members that use their bike racks on vehicles with the newer recess design that Auto Sleeper started using around 2014?? onwards to balance this thread or give an alternative perspective as not everyone with this bike rack setup can be having this problem or are too worried to use theirs for fear of it failing, so if you regularly use yours with no issue then please do comment?
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That said, I’ve no idea what the reinforcing panels on my van look like.
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Just enjoying the last of the sun's rays in our back garden and you've sent me up the ladder to see how my awning is fixed on! As can be seen it is clamped onto a large hollow alloy extrusion that runs the length of the awning. The extrusion has a large surface area with the roof and lots of what I assume is Sikaflex. You need a powerful torch to see down the full length of the extrusion but at the end I was looking there appeared to be a dob of set sikaflex covering what might be a bolt head. I can't be sure of this as the inside of the van beneath the extrusion is boxed in along its length. I don't think the awning's extrusion is going to come off and if it does I think I would have warning of it. Similarly, unlike the loaded bike rack, I don't think it will come off whilst driving.Paulmold wrote:Another very worrying post on a FB group.- Awning secured by mastic, poster went to wind it out, whole thing came crashing down, 2 year old Broadway FB.
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Cymro wrote:Not exactly filling one with confidence, is it? Looks to my untutored eye as if that’s the cheapest and minimum solution.
That said, I’ve no idea what the reinforcing panels on my van look like.
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I think the towel rail in my bathroom is stronger!
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Paulmold wrote:Another very worrying post on a FB group.- Awning secured by mastic, poster went to wind it out, whole thing came crashing down, 2 year old Broadway FB.
Wow… Just what is on going on at Auto-Sleepers
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Whatever's going on, isn't staying on!CC wrote:
Wow… Just what is on going on at Auto-Sleepers
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Thank you for contacting Auto-Sleepers.
Please read the below statement issued by Auto-Sleepers regarding E Bikes.
The installation of the Fiamma Cycle Carrier Mounting Rails on the backs of our coachbuilt range has been specifically designed for the standard Fiamma Pro C range of cycle carriers.
Under no circumstances should any E-Bike carrier, Fiamma or otherwise be fitted to these rails nor shall Existing Fiamma Pro C carriers be upgraded by fitting the Fiamma Kit Upgrade E Bike.
If you wish to carry E Bikes, we strongly advise fitting a chassis or tow bar mounted bike rack to insure a robust fitting.
Why do they fit a rack quoting weight limit of 60kg now reduced to 50kg and advise you don’t use it for e-bikes even though they are only 42kg!
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It isn't logical and they should be challenged about it. Providing the total load on the fixings does not exceed 50 kg, it shouldn't matter how the load is made up. So if for example an e-bike rack is 10 kg that leaves 40 kg for the load on the rack which could be bikes, outside chairs, storage box etc.Bridgetjones3 wrote:Hello,
Thank you for contacting Auto-Sleepers.
Please read the below statement issued by Auto-Sleepers regarding E Bikes.
The installation of the Fiamma Cycle Carrier Mounting Rails on the backs of our coachbuilt range has been specifically designed for the standard Fiamma Pro C range of cycle carriers.
Under no circumstances should any E-Bike carrier, Fiamma or otherwise be fitted to these rails nor shall Existing Fiamma Pro C carriers be upgraded by fitting the Fiamma Kit Upgrade E Bike.
If you wish to carry E Bikes, we strongly advise fitting a chassis or tow bar mounted bike rack to insure a robust fitting.
Why do they fit a rack quoting weight limit of 60kg now reduced to 50kg and advise you don’t use it for e-bikes even though they are only 42kg!
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Hello,
Thank you for contacting Auto-Sleepers,
There is a product enhancer we can fit at a cost of £125.00, The maximum weight you can carry is 50kg.
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Bridgetjones3 wrote:I have finally had a reply. Here it is, now I have just got to agree a date with them to fit it.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Auto-Sleepers,
There is a product enhancer we can fit at a cost of £125.00, The maximum weight you can carry is 50kg.
Gotta love how they’ve named it a “Product Enhancer”
Presumably as it’s bonded on it’ll have to be left overnight to go off or do they say you can drive straight away. Think they have a bit of a cheek charging for this, still not convinced how much it adds to the strength of the bike rack but would be interested to hear if you get yours done & how it feels afterwards?
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I'm still waiting to hear. It's significant they regard it as a product enhancer but are not prepared to return the weight limit to 60 kg. I wonder if they consider the product enhancer allows e-bikes on an e-bike rack to be carried providing the 50 kg isn't exceeded? If the answer is still no, it doesn't say much for the strength of the current fixing without the product enhancer.Bridgetjones3 wrote:I have finally had a reply. Here it is, now I have just got to agree a date with them to fit it.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Auto-Sleepers,
There is a product enhancer we can fit at a cost of £125.00, The maximum weight you can carry is 50kg.
Does your Broadway have the end kitchen like the Nuevo?
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