Diesel symbol info

Hi all, we are thinking of purchasing a 1999-2021 Symbol 1.9 diesel none turbo. and was hoping you can help with a few questions, like will the 1.9 diesel be happy to sit at 60mph on the motorway, and what are they like on the A roads? do you need to stir the gear stick a lot?. also I understand
that they will return well over 30mpg. we had a 2L petrol boxer and that liked petrol. May thanks.Stuart

I had a non-turbo diesel car once, I think it was a Citroen ZX estate 1.9D.  The performance was remarkable (really slow). The only compensation was that in summer you could run it on cheap cooking oil.

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Thanks
Fred

I wasn't aware they did a non-turbo version of the 1.9D. I test drove a reconditioned 2.5D Symbol when I was looking for a Symphony / Symbol. Boy was it slow. It took a while to get up to cruising speed and then it hit a hill, that's when it started to struggle. This from a garage forecourt when unladen. 600cc less could be pretty dire. I bought a 2.0 petrol Symphony in the end and think I made the right choice. I get between 22 and 28 to the gallon, it's quiet, sits at 60mph on a motorway nicely and is no slouch.

If you look at the figures on the Wiki page, it looks woefully underpowered - 1.9D gives 69PS and 120Nm, while the turbo 1.9TD gives 92PS and 196NM. For further comparison the 2.5TD gets you 103PS and 230NM. Worse, the peak power is way up at 4600 RPM, which is going to sound pretty manic with a diesel.

Doesn't sound like my idea of a fun drive....

My previous van was a 2.8lt non-turbo diesel, and although it would eventually reach the national speed limit, I could've boiled an egg in the time it took to do it.
My present van is only a 2lt HDI, but it's streets ahead on acceleration.
Al.

bikeralw wrote:My previous van was a 2.8lt non-turbo diesel, and although it would eventually reach the national speed limit, I could've boiled an egg in the time it took to do it.
My present van is only a 2lt HDI, but it's streets ahead on acceleration.
Al.

I think much is down to the internal fittings because i once had a Transit 2.5Di which went pretty damn well and the mpg was excellent. However the fittings in that van were all mdf where AS use solid wood so much heavier. The engine i have now is a turbo 2.5 and doesn't perform anywhere near as good as the non-turbo did. Mpg is also lower.