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Post by Guest Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:32 am

I have a T4 Trident with plastic gutters both sides of the van fixed with bolts screwed into metal fixings which are glued to the sides of the van. anyone know where I can source these fixings?
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Post by Paulmold Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:35 am

Obvious question - have you tried Auto-sleeper spares dept?

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Post by -mojo- Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:13 pm

Agreed - and if they don't sell them (I don't think they have been used on any models for a few years now) they will probably be able to tell you where they sourced them. To me they appear to be a marine product, but I may be wrong about that.

A few years back I tried to source some for a Flair, which used the same system, but I failed and ended up bonding the existing (loose) ones back on, which worked out Ok.
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Post by repoort Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:42 pm

...just out of curiosity, are you by any chance in the process of removing the gutter mouldings, possibly to remove rust....or is it just a loose bolt ?
I would think that the gutters are secured by very strong adhesive/sealant by the factory, as well as the bolts.
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Post by Guest Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:32 pm

Thamk you report and yes I have removed the gutters and found that the fixing bolts screw into a metal base plate with a column which is threaded internally holding the bolt in place. It is these base plates i am after having lost 4 somehow. Autosleepers dont keep them and the gutters are made to order by an outside manufacturer.
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Post by peugeotboxer Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:19 am

I went through this exercise a while ago, but cannot find the info.
I'm not sure if I did actually purchase any though.
I did rebond quite a few that had become detached from the body.
The fixing plates were 'roughed' up before bonding, with I think Araldite. 

A quick Google search brings up these which you may find helpful:

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Post by -mojo- Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:48 pm

On mine, A/S had originally fixed them with double-sided sticky tape, which I thought was a bit pathetic.

Be warned - "60 second" epoxy adhesive seems to take a ~lot~ longer than 60 seconds to set when you're standing on a ladder and holding one of those in position with plastic gloves on!

If you've also lost the fixing bolt, I found that a nylon number plate fixing bolt can fit, though with the wrong type of head - but it didn't really show on mine.
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Post by Uncleron Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:53 pm

I did wonder what the plastic outer gutter screwed into after going through the wood and mastic that creates the internal gutter. There is quite a space down the side of the van between each screw holding the outer plastic housing on. Can I ask you if that means that every screw has it's own individual metal plate to screw into?

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Post by -mojo- Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:51 pm

I'm fairly sure that A/S used two different systems at different times. The one being discussed here is the one with glued-on standoffs, but they have also used a directly fixed method, without standoffs. Sorry to say I don't know how the latter system was implemented.
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