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Post by mpbarrett Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:16 am

We have a 2011 Symbol ES (this has 2 rear travelling seats and belts in it). I just had it MOT'ed (with a garage used to van, lorries and campervans) and had noticed that one the of the rear seats belts (offside) was jammed. It passed the MOT like this and it made me wonder if the MOT only considers the base van and not the rear seat belts?

I want to fix this and have had a look at the rear seat belt and at the moment cant get it out as the captive nut holding it is not longer captive and is rotating. This might be a challenge as I cant see yet how to get a  spanner on the hidden nut...  Once I have got it off where to get a replacement belt, is it best to go direct to Autosleeper or to a campervan dealer?

Very pleased with the van, had it for less than a year and have done nearly 6000 miles in it but that only takes it to 14000 miles total.

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Post by Paulmold Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:26 am

My Nuevo ES has passed the last 3 MOTs and I know they never checked the rear belts. Possibly because we always leave the rest seats as benches, the testers have probably never noticed it has rear belts. On my car  they always test them because they always leave them fastened.

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Post by peugeotboxer Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:29 am

I always fasten mine before the test. 
I don't want some scruffy mechanic rummaging in the lockers for the belts.
Having said that, I have no idea if they are checked!

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Post by rogerblack Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:38 am

The MOT test only requires the inspection of statutory seat belts. What constitutes this in a motor caravan has been argued and debated many, many times on this and other forums.
There are flow charts here which may or may not clarify the muddy waters:
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I have lost track of which is the latest set of regs; if these 2012 are out of date then I am happy to stand corrected.

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Post by Paulmold Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:20 am

peugeotboxer wrote:I always fasten mine before the test. 
I don't want some scruffy mechanic rummaging in the lockers for the belts.
Having said that, I have no idea if they are checked!

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A scruffy mechanic should still pull the webbing right out to inspect for any cuts etc.

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Post by mpbarrett Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:05 am

thanks. 
Worth checking them oneself particularly if they are not often used...
I still cant remove the bolt holding it to the body but have managed to unjam it. There is a small bit of plastic that acts as a guide for the belt. This had broken off the body of the device and wrapped with the belt around the drum. Managed to remove it and the belt is now fine and locks if pulled fast.

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Post by mpbarrett Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:10 am

just looked at the registration document for the van and it states that it has two seats!
So maybe they ignore the rear two. Wonder if that means the insurance wont cover you for rear passengers?
I think this is a can of worms best left closed.

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Post by barryandpam Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:01 am

Our 1998 Medallion just passed the MOT with a faulty rear seat belt - it was only listed as Advisory. But the insurance of passengers not wearing a seat belt would be a problem
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Post by Windychippy Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:02 am

mpbarrett wrote:just looked at the registration document for the van and it states that it has two seats!
So maybe they ignore the rear two. Wonder if that means the insurance wont cover you for rear passengers?
I think this is a can of worms best left closed.

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Post by Big Erb 98 Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:31 am

I have just had a conversation with Peter Kingsnorth (Auto-Sleepers) after noticing my seating capacity on my V5 was blank!!! even he said it should have been filled in for insurance purposes he said it isn't Auto-Sleeper who send off for the V5's and change the details but it's the dealers who do and should have noted all the changes he has since sent me a A/S letter head with the following saying to whoever it may concern the VW LT35 A/S Medallion has a 4 seating capacity all with seat belts signed P Kingsnorth A/S.
this is not the only thing that is wrong with my V5 "GOODS VEHICLE" instead of "MOTORCARAVAN" colour WHITE/GREY instead of WHITE/GREEN no weight of vehicle left BLANK!!! until I made some inquiries I thought I'd bought a stolen M/H with a V5 from a VW LT35 VAN!!!
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Post by Cymro Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:41 pm

Seems it's common for the V5 to contain errors or omissions. Mine certainly did: 2 seats (not 4); van; wrong weight; etc.

The good news is that DVLA is very helpful and speedy in acceptong and effecting corrections, and issuing a revised V5.

Forum members might find it worthwhile to check their V5s very carefully!
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Post by Bulletguy Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:33 am

Paulmold wrote:
peugeotboxer wrote:I always fasten mine before the test. 
I don't want some scruffy mechanic rummaging in the lockers for the belts.
Having said that, I have no idea if they are checked!

PB
A scruffy mechanic should still pull the webbing right out to inspect for any cuts etc.
I'd be concerned about any mechanic who wasn't 'scruffy' as it would tell me he does very little garage work and spends too much time with office secretaries!  hugegrins
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