Trigano buys Auto-Sleeper

by Paulmold Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:14 pm

http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/trigano-buy-autosleeper.145292/

http://m.4-traders.com/TRIGANO-4718/news/Trigano-Acquisition-of-Auto-Sleepers-Investments-Ltd-23637038/

Oh well, that's that then.

by PLOUGHLIN Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:13 pm

Is this good or bad? Return of the Transit base? End of the MB base?

by Paulmold Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:18 pm

Anyone got comments on Trigano quality?

by dbroada Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:50 pm

That would account for Marquis pushing Benimars last year then.

by Paulmold Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:56 pm

dbroada wrote:That would account for Marquis pushing Benimars last year then.

And now Euro-mobil also owned by Trigano. Trouble is they own Autotrail as well.

by **roli** Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:31 pm

If left to run independently wouldn't have thought,other than a product rationalisation there would be any problems. It could well be run from Trigano UK and production moved to the larger AT factory.... speculation!!

by burlingtonboaby Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:36 pm

Maybe its been on the books for awhile Paul, management appeared to have a genuine dis interest in their product quality, especially when you read the threads on the forum .
My son has an Autotrail Arapaho, I wasn't really impressed with its build quality either.
Sigma is still hanging together ,so far.
Boaby

by Paulmold Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:58 pm

I've read a lot of threads on other forums about Autotrail problems but seeing as they produce and sell far more than AS , statistically they would have more problems. I think the hint of something stirring was Marquis bringing in Benimars and Euromobils.

by harry h Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:02 pm

A/S no longer thought of as a quality product when you listen to people and read some of the horror stories on this site about quality problems. Maybe they will see where this management has gone wrong and start making a quality motorhome again. I think scale may allow the purchase of better priced chassis also. A good thing would be the introduction of the Ford product.

by Peter Brown Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:33 pm

The owner of Trigano has been one of the 3 AS Directors since April 2013.

by Paulmold Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:56 pm

Peter Brown wrote:The owner of Trigano has been one of the 3 AS Directors since April 2013.

So as the 'two managers of AS will remain' we should expect no change in quality.

by Paulmold Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:19 pm

They're only buying Adria as well!

http://www.trigano-finance.com/en/finance/cp.asp?id=548

Monopolies Commission????

by Heanorboy Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:25 pm

I moved over from a 2006 Tribby to the Dorset for a better quality van and the fit is far in advance. For example gaps for cupboards are cleaner and nowhere near as many rattles.
If you look at Autotrail vans post and pre David Bentley selling you can easily see the difference with lower quality looking fittings and finish.
So if Autosleeper follow the example of Auto Trail production will go up prices may in fact fall slightly to gain a bigger share of the market and I would guess that either Auto Trail or Auto Sleeper will become the UK "Budget Range"
David

by groundhog Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:56 pm

Thanks for the info Paul, sad really but who knows what will happen now.... production move to Europe... if that happens with a weak pound prices will probably shoot up, conversely the weak pound might make production in the UK cheaper... only time will tell!

by logburner Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:42 pm

roli wrote:If left to run independently wouldn't have thought,other than a product rationalisation there would be any problems. It could well be run from Trigano UK and production moved to the larger AT factory.... speculation!!

Larger AT factory ? Where would that be then roli , ? scratch head

by Cookie99 Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:46 pm

They are also acquiring Adria.

http://www.practicalmotorhome.com/news/42459-trigano-group-buys-adria?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Buying up all the competition!

by Paulmold Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:56 pm

Cookie99 wrote:They are also acquiring Adria.

http://www.practicalmotorhome.com/news/42459-trigano-group-buys-adria?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Buying up all the competition!

Beat you to it 5 posts earlier.

by Cookie99 Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:58 pm

Sorry.

by Paulmold Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:59 pm

logburner wrote:
roli wrote:If left to run independently wouldn't have thought,other than a product rationalisation there would be any problems. It could well be run from Trigano UK and production moved to the larger AT factory.... speculation!!
Larger AT factory ? Where would that be then roli , ?

One in three motorhomes sold in UK are built at the AT factory in Grimsby.

by burlingtonboaby Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:49 am

Doesn't give me any warm feeling Paul, looks like my Sigma will be my last A/S van and when I'm in the market again, properly have a closer look at the Hymer range.
I know my lad wants to part exchange his Autotrail this spring and looking at a some sub 7mtr Hymers before he heads back to the U.K .
Sorry to be all negative folks, if quality is an issue with the newer A/S vans, I carn't see having Trigano directorship improving quality as the Autotrail brand seems to have quality problems of their own.
Read the reviews directors!!
Boaby

by Askit Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:53 am

OK
Who knows where it will lead. Before we bought, we spent a ridiculous 3 years doing research (although it all seemed right at the time). Part of the problem is the dearth of dealerships up here and the lack of Motorhome shows, the Scottish show has a very limited range of models on show. Our first two choices on paper were from the Trigano stable and, given that they were both donkeys, that was the right place for them. It was only when we were able to compare an AS in the same place as another well known make that the difference in quality became obvious.

I must say I fear the worst with the change, everything seems to be profit driven and that may mean lower standards in future.

by burlingtonboaby Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:00 am

Askit wrote:Who knows where it will lead. Before we bought, we spent a ridiculous 3 years doing research (although it all seemed right at the time). Part of the problem is the dearth of dealerships up here and the lack ok Motorhome shows, the Scottish show has a very limited range of models on show. Our first two choices on paper were from the Trigano stable and, given that they were both donkeys, that was the right place for them. It was only when we were able to compare an AS in the same place as another well known make that the difference in quality became obvious.

I must say I fear the worst with the change, everything seems to be profit driven and that may mean lower standards in future.

Never mind Tony, Burns night soon eh! Have you shot your haggis yet, hugegrins

Boaby

by Askit Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:08 am

I've tried Boaby but the shot keeps bouncing off the tin snigger

by burlingtonboaby Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:17 am

Askit wrote:I've tried Boaby but the shot keeps bouncing off the tin

Gave up the road kill Haggis after trying out Grants tinned haggis, managed to smuggle a few tins out last year .have a nice one.
Boaby cheerz!

by AndyLouch Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:22 am

Good day all, thanks to Paulmold (and others) highlighting this development. As noted, I think this could go in several directions. The optimist in me feels that this could be a really good opportunity for Trigano to use A/S as a 'premier brand' in the same way as Toyota has developed the 'Lexus brand' to compete with MB, BMW, Jaguar etc. The marketing power of A/S would be increased at little real cost and increased production possibilities provided by larger/more sophisticated facilities make inroads into Hymer, Dethleffs etc. in Europe and possibly North America. Glass half full??

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