Has anyone got a FIAT ?
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Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Machloop Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:41 pm
Having just ordered a FIAT based Kingham, I'm wondering how these vans are fairing for others. Are there any out there ?
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Peter Brown Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:46 pm
If there are there won't be many as vans ordered earlier this year will only be being delivered now.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Paulmold Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:49 pm
I believe the Fiat (as opposed to the Peugeot) is only used if automatic gearbox is required.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Peter Brown Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:56 pm
That is correctPaulmold wrote:I believe the Fiat (as opposed to the Peugeot) is only used if automatic gearbox is required.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Machloop Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:03 pm
Yes, mine [ours] will be an Auto. I didn't realise that this was such a recent option. Maybe I should have asked on the Auto cruise forum. 
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Bulletguy Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:51 pm
Machloop wrote:Having just ordered a FIAT based Kingham, I'm wondering how these vans are fairing for others. Are there any out there ?
Blimey......orders van, then 'wonders' if they are any good!
Having second thoughts already?
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by roli Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:19 am
Clearly the Fiat chassis has more convertors and the Auto version seems ok. We have friends with Autotrails with this combo, I have no experience with the Kingham conversion
My self I would be happier with a Fiat round here as the main dealers have more about them than any of the Peigeot ones and should you need parts the Fiat ones seems to be more sensibly priced than their PSA cousins
My self I would be happier with a Fiat round here as the main dealers have more about them than any of the Peigeot ones and should you need parts the Fiat ones seems to be more sensibly priced than their PSA cousins
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Machloop Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:05 pm
roli wrote:Clearly the Fiat chassis has more convertors and the Auto version seems ok. We have friends with Autotrails with this combo, I have no experience with the Kingham conversion..............
Yes, I knew that interchangeable parts for these vans were often cheaper if bought from FIAT, and glad to hear that you have heard no negative feedback about the gearbox. I've no experience with the Ducato gearbox but the auto system in the FIAT cars is quite 'jumpy'. But, I do want an Autosleeper and Peugeot can't fit an auto box.
As for the Kingham........
I'm sure it will be up to Autosleepers fine standards.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by PLOUGHLIN Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:59 pm
It is a Robotised Manual box I think, not a true automatic. These tend to be less smooth changing than a true auto. Haven't driven the Fiat though so could be fine.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by m8form8 Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:55 pm
I tried a fiat automatic and have to say was not keen myself. But I am not a fan of the base van either, sadly 80% of motor homes and van conversions are on that platform and only Fiat offers its semi automatic system. Very jumpy and has a preference to change down as soon as I took a foot of the accelerator on my test drive of one.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by sylvester1954 Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:40 pm
Looking forward to collecting my (used) Autosleeper Kingham in a week too but this is on a Peugot. My present van is on a Fiat and it has always run like a dream with no issues ...so I am hoping that the Peugot is as good at the very least ...
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Kingham Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:47 am
Machloop, my last two motorhomes were Fiat Ducato based and I can honestly say that in close to six years, I had no bother at all with the Fiat side of things. Both were manual gearboxes so I can't offer any opinion of the Fiat auto.
The Kingham is also my favourite conversion and I can't wait to own one.
The Kingham is also my favourite conversion and I can't wait to own one.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Machloop Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:04 pm
Wargenwolf wrote:Machloop, my last two motorhomes were Fiat Ducato based and I can honestly say that in close to six years, I had no bother at all with the Fiat side of things. Both were manual gearboxes so I can't offer any opinion of the Fiat auto.
The Kingham is also my favourite conversion and I can't wait to own one.
Well, the FIAT van is built in the same factory by the same robots with the same panels onto the same chassis at the Sevel factory in Italy as the Peugeot Boxer and the Citroen Jumper. The engines and gearboxes are different as are the trim and styling parts. So the Peugeot version should be as good as the FIAT or a Citroen. The FIAT automatic gearboxes do appear to be electro-mechanical in nature so I expect a bit of jerking in certain conditions but as these auto vans are quite rare, I'll just have to wait and see. I can't see much correspondence from owners of newer van conversions here so any problems with the latest Sevel van have yet to surface.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Peter Brown Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:35 am
I heard yesterday that the first Fiat ordered has just been delivered (a Stanway). I know the lady who bought it but won't see her again this year.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by judy Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:52 pm
We have a fiat kemerton and both my husband and I find it very easy and smooth to drive. We are really happy with it. We get around 34 miles to the gallon. I'm sure you'll be pleased with your new van.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Dougrdf Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:43 am
The Fiat version uses its own engine and gearbox unit, whereas the Peugeot and Citroën versions use their own PSA unit. Hence the difference in price, making the Fiat version more expensive.
I've driven both Peugeot and the Fiat 130hp engine, in panel van guise and for me, the Fiat is way nicer to drive and less noisy than the PSA engined versions.
I think too that the Fiat has longer engine service intervals too, but can't be100% sure on that.
I've driven both Peugeot and the Fiat 130hp engine, in panel van guise and for me, the Fiat is way nicer to drive and less noisy than the PSA engined versions.
I think too that the Fiat has longer engine service intervals too, but can't be100% sure on that.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Admin Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:12 am
Machloop wrote:Having just ordered a FIAT based Kingham, I'm wondering how these vans are fairing for others. Are there any out there ?
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Machloop Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:18 pm
Oops, sorry about that, I didn't read the full rules.Admin wrote:
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by terrya231 Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:39 pm
Only available as ComfortMatic robotised auto for 2015 models, but 2016 models should come with five year warranty on base. And of course 2.3-litre, but 130 - Peugeot Boxer 2.2-litre 150bhp on 2015 on
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by Machloop Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:16 am
Sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Can you say it again please ?terrya231 wrote:Only available as ComfortMatic robotised auto for 2015 models, but 2016 models should come with five year warranty on base. And of course 2.3-litre, but 130 - Peugeot Boxer 2.2-litre 150bhp on 2015 on
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by dbroada Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:37 am
I too have just ordered a FIAT but can't help you as mine won't be delivered until sometime in the middle of next year.
I have not driven an auto but I do drive a Smart which has the same sort of auto box. I consider these to be clutchless manuals rather than auto. You can leave the car to sort out when to change gear (which in the Smart gives a less than smooth ride) or press the lever to go up or down, or in my case press the lever to go up and let the electronics to change down. This (for me) gives a very smooth ride.
The one big disadvantage of this arrangement over having a clutch or a "normal" auto is in parking. Yes, the worst thing about the shortest car in the world is parking it! On a normal auto you can select R and it will creep backwards leaving you to brake when you are in position. A manual is similar as you can ride the clutch and go back slowly. In the Smart you select R and the car stays still. You then have to accelerate to get the clutch to engage and you start going backwards - often quicker than intended. You then press the brake but have not yet reached where you needed to be. I think I need to practice my left foot braking technique.
Having said all that and being aware of the Smart car box I am still happy to have ordered a FIAT auto for my next van.
I have not driven an auto but I do drive a Smart which has the same sort of auto box. I consider these to be clutchless manuals rather than auto. You can leave the car to sort out when to change gear (which in the Smart gives a less than smooth ride) or press the lever to go up or down, or in my case press the lever to go up and let the electronics to change down. This (for me) gives a very smooth ride.
The one big disadvantage of this arrangement over having a clutch or a "normal" auto is in parking. Yes, the worst thing about the shortest car in the world is parking it!
On a normal auto you can select R and it will creep backwards leaving you to brake when you are in position. A manual is similar as you can ride the clutch and go back slowly. In the Smart you select R and the car stays still. You then have to accelerate to get the clutch to engage and you start going backwards - often quicker than intended. You then press the brake but have not yet reached where you needed to be. I think I need to practice my left foot braking technique.Having said all that and being aware of the Smart car box I am still happy to have ordered a FIAT auto for my next van.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by m8form8 Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:55 am
I test drove a Fiat semi auto, I have to say it operated far from smooth on its changes. In fact I found it totally unacceptable which is why I won't buy one now. 
Sadly 80% of production motor homes are only available on the Fiat if you want an Auto.
Sadly 80% of production motor homes are only available on the Fiat if you want an Auto.
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Re: Has anyone got a FIAT ?
by dbroada Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:06 am
That may be so but as Heather can't get the Pug seat to a position that she can fully depress the clutch I think when she drives, the auto FIAT will be smoother than the Pug.m8form8 wrote:I test drove a Fiat semi auto, I have to say it operated far from smooth on its changes. In fact I found it totally unacceptable which is why I won't buy one now.
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