Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
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Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by marc4242 Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:15 pm
I have a 1998 Symphony on a Peugeot Boxer. I just noticed that the rotary headlamp adjustment switch, to the right of the rotary headlamp switch, is getting very warm at the top between numbers 2 and 1. It is noticeable, once the ignition switch has been on for about 5-10 mins.
Before I rip the dashboard apart, can any tell me what it's like on their vehicle?
Marc
Before I rip the dashboard apart, can any tell me what it's like on their vehicle?
Marc
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by boxerman Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:08 pm
Can't say that I've noticed on mine ('95) the adjuster isn't electric so I cannot think of what it might be giving off heat 
Be interested in the results of you finding though
Frank
Be interested in the results of you finding though
Frank
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by marc4242 Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:35 pm
Hi Frank
The heat is not apparent until you actually put your finger in the right spot.
Marc
The heat is not apparent until you actually put your finger in the right spot.
Marc
boxerman wrote:Can't say that I've noticed on mine ('95) the adjuster isn't electric so I cannot think of what it might be giving off heat
Be interested in the results of you finding though
Frank
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by marc4242 Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:10 am
Would anyone with a Symphony mind popping out to your vehicle to see what yours does, ie with nothing electric switched on, switch the ignition on and see if the headlamp adjustment switch (to the right of the headlamp on/off switch) gets warm within 5-10 mins. If yours does too I'll forget about the issue, if it doesn't I need to book into the garage.
Thanks a lot
Marc
Thanks a lot
Marc
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by peugeotboxer Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:33 pm
Just checked mine and although it does get slightly warm, it is not what I would call 'hot'.
When the ignition is on, the switch knob and the numbers are illuminated and I wonder if someone has replaced the bulb for a higher wattage than it should be.
(Don't ask me what it should be!)
PB
When the ignition is on, the switch knob and the numbers are illuminated and I wonder if someone has replaced the bulb for a higher wattage than it should be.
(Don't ask me what it should be!)
PB
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by marc4242 Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:16 pm
Thanks very much PB, I'll wait till it's dark and go and have another look.
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by Nain Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:51 pm
Just checked my 1999 Symbol - no heat at all.
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by marc4242 Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:44 pm
Nain wrote:Just checked my 1999 Symbol - no heat at all.
I checked last night in the dark sure enough the switch is permanently illuminated regardless of any lights being on. That seems like an odd design fault to me. Is yours illuminated Nain?
I think I'll just take the bulb out!
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by peugeotboxer Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:34 am
Mine is illuminated all the time the ignition is on.marc4242 wrote:Nain wrote:Just checked my 1999 Symbol - no heat at all.
I checked last night in the dark sure enough the switch is permanently illuminated regardless of any lights being on. That seems like an odd design fault to me. Is yours illuminated Nain?
I think I'll just take the bulb out!
Would be interested in the bulb wattage when you take it out.
Let us know.
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by marc4242 Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:04 pm
Here's what it all looked like. The rightmost black part right of the draper trim removal tool is the rectangular blanking plate, the 2 small black dodas no idea but they fell out with the lamp holder. The small green thing is the bulb, I can't see a wattage on it, jut some writing I can't quite make out. Thanks for your help everyone.
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by Nain Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:36 pm
Yes, illuminated but quite feint
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by marc4242 Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:20 am
Sounds like someone did put the wrong bulb in then. AS I've removed it and can't see what's written on it we shall never know ... 
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by boxerman Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:28 am
I bought a box of 10 for the heater controls, quite a bit ago. Might have been these:
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But I couldn't be sure.
Frank
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But I couldn't be sure.
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by Bartfarst Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:54 pm
Marc,
Asides, have you checked to see whether your headlamp adjustment mechanism actually does anything? The mk1 Boxers had a hydraulic mechanism to control the headlamp height and mine failed within a year or so from new. I don't know of any which have lasted.
I think failure normally results I the lamps pointing fully up, but I'll stand corrected. Normal recover action is to ties the adjustment screw down to the headlamp body with a cable tie.
Bartfarst
Asides, have you checked to see whether your headlamp adjustment mechanism actually does anything? The mk1 Boxers had a hydraulic mechanism to control the headlamp height and mine failed within a year or so from new. I don't know of any which have lasted.
I think failure normally results I the lamps pointing fully up, but I'll stand corrected. Normal recover action is to ties the adjustment screw down to the headlamp body with a cable tie.
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by boxerman Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:00 pm
Mine works!Bartfarst wrote:Marc,
Asides, have you checked to see whether your headlamp adjustment mechanism actually does anything? The mk1 Boxers had a hydraulic mechanism to control the headlamp height and mine failed within a year or so from new. I don't know of any which have lasted.
I don't think that they are hydraulic though? I think it's just some sort of enclosed bowden cable mechanism? has anyone taken one apart to see what is inside? be interested to know as the parts list gives the 'switch', cables and ends as all one unit.Frank
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by Bartfarst Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:15 pm
Frank,
On reflection I think you're right: cancel my last message!
I think I still have a set somewhere waiting to be thrown away - I'll dismantle them first and let you know.
Stuart aka Bartfarst
On reflection I think you're right: cancel my last message!
I think I still have a set somewhere waiting to be thrown away - I'll dismantle them first and let you know.
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by mikebro Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:31 pm
Mine ARE hydraulic - one works and one doesn't!! I dismantled the one that doesn't work and some red hydraulic fluid came out of the flexible line that goes from the switch to the lamp unit. They work just like a hydraulic brake - as you turn the switch it tries to compress the fluid in the tube. Because the fluid is virtually incompressible, the fluid causes the piston in the lamp unit to rotate the lamp unit on its pivot. The lights point at their highest without any hydraulic pressure, as Stuart says. So I leave both my lights pointing at their highest; this seems to be fine for the loading in the van. Whilst I like things to work properly, this fix is not high on the priority list!
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by boxerman Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:37 pm
Brilliant! WELL DONE that man I've wondered how they worked ever since I got the van.
I know now
Frank
I've wondered how they worked ever since I got the van.I know now
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by Bartfarst Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:46 pm
Well I'll be blowed: better uncancel my cancelled last message!
Thanks Mikebro
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Re: Peugeot Boxer - headlight adjust switch warm
by marc4242 Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:40 pm
Bartfarst wrote:Marc,
Asides, have you checked to see whether your headlamp adjustment mechanism actually does anything? The mk1 Boxers had a hydraulic mechanism to control the headlamp height and mine failed within a year or so from new. I don't know of any which have lasted.
No, I haven't, as the van i always pretty evenly loaded, I've not seen the point of it.
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