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Post by nuevoboy Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:14 pm

Well, my waste drain tap lever snapped off t'other day, as is common practice, by all accounts.

I have been reading all the previous postings and really do fancy fitting one of the metal valve types mentioned.
However, it seems from the above postings that some sort of adaptor is required to mount the valve to the skirting panel. There is mention of using the backplate off a beer-barrel type tap.

What I would like to know is if there is one point of contact (such as the Akro company) that can suppy all the correct fittings in one order.

Incidentally, my Nuevo is an '05 model and the tap is mounted on the "stern" section of the cutout.
I've not really grasped the scale of the photos above and hope that it would indeed fit into the cutout housing.....which brings about another thought.....would there be room to fit a right angle (elbow?) fitting to direct the waste water vertically downwards?

Hope that isn't too confusing an ask. confused3
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Post by akrovalve Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:55 pm

Hi Nuevoboy,

We can supply various brass or plastic ball valves, which can be fitted with a back nut, (similarly to how a ballcock valve is fitted into the cold water tank in your attic) In this way they can be suported by the bodywork . The valves are generally of 3/4" BSP thread size ( approx 1" diameter hole ) although we can supply other sizes as well. We can also supply fitted with the ribbed hose tails to fit into your water tank hose.

The brass valves are a silver nickel plating finish & the plastic valves are of robust construction, with the red T or Butterfly Wing patterned handle, for use between thumb & Index finger operation.

If required, we can fit a 90 deg elbow onto the outlet, so that the flow is directed downwards or even slightly backwards to try and prevent debris from being blown up into the valve. Although I have not come across this problem before myself.

We can also supply a similar "mini" ball valve as shown in the article by paulmold, either in 1/2" or 3/4" size, but the valves are of restricted bore type. Therefore they do have a chance of becoming blocked by any debris coming out of the tank. This is more a problem with the waste tank rather than the fresh water tank though.

If I can be of any help, contact me peter@akrovalve.com or www.akrovalve.com or just send me a pm here!

As my introductory article on Drain Tap Replacement valves (december 2011 ) states, any business that I obtain from ASOF members, will result in a 15% comission being forwarded to the ASOF Funds! drinksallround

But don't take this as any pressure selling please lol4

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Post by roli Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:41 pm

The van as supplied new by AS had a 90deg grey plastic bend that screwed into the valve of the waste outlet.

We didnt get ours and it was only on a factory visit it came to light and they supplied one, presumably the dealers have accumulated stocks !!!!!!
The Willersey s/c had not mentioned this either on its warranty visits

These things are readily available from B&Q, Plumbers Merchants etc. I know to his credit, he doesnt advertise his company on here but Dago may
be able to give you alternative suppliers names being in the valve business (thats me saying it not him)
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Post by akrovalve Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:28 pm

Just as an update. If we can be of assistance.
These are the type of valves and fittings that may be of interest for use with the fresh water our waste water outlets.
We can combine the valves, with different fittings to connect into the outlet pipes. These shown are all of 3/4" size, but we can supply larger or smaller sizes, depending upon your individual needs.


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The 2 shiney hexagon shaped valves top right corner are " Mini" Ball valves, but they do come with a restricted bore size, so not so good where solid particles may clog up the outlet.

Sorry about the picture being on it's side, but photobucket doesn't seem to want to play ball today.

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Post by pat and jim Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:04 pm

Hi Cruizing Comet .Were are your tanks .We have a sigma with the tanks underneath and as we have the recesses in the skirt as your picture I thought i would fit a fresh water drain tap like yours.Having found a tap in my plumbing box I drilled the hole and fited the tap.Our drain tap is on the end of a length of pipe that you drop down on the floor.Having got down on the floor and slid under to fit the pipe to the tap I realised the new tap was about three inches higher than the bottom of the tank.Thats possibly why the taps are not fited in the first place I'm now looking for something to fit in the hole so it doesn't look like a mistake read
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Post by deckie Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:46 pm

pat and jim wrote: I'm now looking for something to fit in the hole so it doesn't look like a mistake read

Hi Jim,

A White or Amber reflector, perhaps ??

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Post by pat and jim Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:56 pm

Hi Brian that's a good idea thanks .I might fit the tap back it might confuse anybody trying to drain my water fo me scratch head
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Post by deckie Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:09 pm

pat and jim wrote:Hi Brian that's a good idea thanks .I might fit the tap back it might confuse anybody trying to drain my water fo me scratch head

Smart thinking allthumbz

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Post by nuevoboy Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:39 pm

Hi folks,
following on from my request above asking for the supply of all parts required to replace my broken drain tap,
I have been in regular contact with Peter (aka Dago) from Akro Valves.
Over several emails, he suggested various options, measured up alternative assemblies and finally supplied all the parts required.
Hopefully you will see from the following photos (before, during and after) what has materialised:

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I think you will all agree that I now have a secure and robust drain tap.
I would like to thank Peter for his time and patience in dealing with this matter and can heartily
recommend his services to you.

(Please excuse the the 'van not being in pristine condition, but we picked up a lot of grime on our recent visit to the Black Mountains. snigger )
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Post by CC Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:17 am

I bet she drains much better know nuevoboy up! big improvement on the plastic butt taps....


pat and jim wrote:Hi Cruizing Comet .Were are your tanks .We have a sigma with the tanks underneath and as we have the recesses in the skirt as your picture I thought i would fit a fresh water drain tap like yours.Having found a tap in my plumbing box I drilled the hole and fited the tap.Our drain tap is on the end of a length of pipe that you drop down on the floor.Having got down on the floor and slid under to fit the pipe to the tap I realised the new tap was about three inches higher than the bottom of the tank.Thats possibly why the taps are not fited in the first place I'm now looking for something to fit in the hole so it doesn't look like a mistake read

Sorry jim... Missed this until just now, sorry.

Our waste tap yellow one was already on the grey waste tank when we got the van, the fresh water tank had been previously fitted with a cak tap but we couldn't get on with it so when next in the area we got the service centre at Auto-Sleepers to fit the blue tap to the fresh water tank, understood from them it was a straight forward swap for the cak tap. The Sigma and Nuevo I would have thought would be the same but as you say you have a drop down drain tap and you had to make a hole in the recess which would suggest they probably are different, maybe the Sigma tanks are larger?

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