2007 Symbol toilet flusher pump

We have a 2006 Symbol.
Over the years, there have been occasions when our Thetford toilet flusher has seized.

It has had to be removed, the vanes prised round with a screwdriver and sometimes given a clonk with the screwdriver handle    [all this even though we do empty the flusher water after each trip]
This treatment usually works but
now i have decided, sod the cost, i am going to fit a new one.

However, i can't figure out where the pump power cable goes to/comes from.

I have had a feel around inside the flusher water tank and followed it to the rear of the toilet bowl but it is impossible to see where it goes or clips into. 

Obviously it will be a watertight connector if submerged ?
Maybe it goes directly to the combined operating button/cassette opener knob ?
If so, does this come off ?
If it goes through to the cassette housing compartment, i'm struggling to see where?

Has anyone else changed their similar model pump and if so, will i have to start removing panels (either showerwall or inside the rear door) ??

I've tried Youtube but drawn a blank as the ones featured have a cistern top flusher - much easier to figure out and get at.

Thanks in anticipation folks
Allan in Yorkshire

Everyone's flush pump seems to stick at some point. Is it worth changing it when the likelihood is that a new one will seize as well?

Tinwheeler wrote:Everyone's flush pump seems to stick at some point. Is it worth changing it when the likelihood is that a new one will seize as well?

I know I may be tempting providence, but having owned our 22 year old van for 20 years, the flush pump has never stuck - touch wood.

Mind you, it is a manual one!   

To me, an electric pump seems overkill; it doesn't take much effort to operate ours and it does seem to be less likely to go wrong.

How many folk have electric flush loos at home?  Is that even a thing?  

YIi wrote:How many folk have electric flush loos at home?  Is that even a thing?  

Yes there is. A friend who has such severe arthritis that she cannot use a normal flush lever has one. It fooled me the first time I attempted to use it! Sheepishly had to ask for guidance!

Cymro

Not wanting to cast doom and gloom but I gave up on the electric flush pump on our Rienza. The idea of a vane pump in gunk that causes blockages along with wiring joints in the same damp area has caused me enough problems to resort to a manual flush as suggested by a forum user.
Our Rienza is the older model so this might not help more recent builds but avoiding additives in the flush water might help blocked pumps if nothing else.

Thanks for your replies guys but i think we are at crossed purposes.

We didn't choose to have this facility. Our loo is a compact porta potty kind of affair with a cassette in a cupboad accessed from outside the van.

There is a big cap shaped device the size of a big jamjar lid that opens the loo cassette, which if pressed down squirts water from the fluid tank.

The pump sticks occasionally but i reckoned as it is in a 'nearly' 20 year old van year, it hasn't done too badly. Other than a bottle of jollop in a trigger bottle, i can't think how i'd fit a manual flusher.

Anyhow, unless anybody knows how to rewire a new pump, i'll put up with this one or start unscrewing stuff and report back.

Cheers folks.

On the opposite side of your loo from the flush handle, is there an even bigger jam jar lid thing? It'll have a lid it's for the loo roll and to keep it dry on a shower room?

If so, take the lid off.

Now the bucket that the loo roll lives in can be carefully eased out of the loo body. Under that on a length of flex hose is your pump.

Have you got this kind of loo???

From your description I believe you have a C2 toilet. If so this is the pump you need and instructions are in this website link....

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Thanks IanH and Paulmold.

Yes Ian, as i said in my post, i'd tried to follow the cable, down inside that flusher water tank but my question was where the other end of said cable goes.

I will follow Paul's link but - while i've been parked up and basking in the Yorkshire Dales sunshine, ive now descovered that the centre of the jamjar sized lid pops out to reveal a screw.

I'm willing to bet that Paul has come up with the very answer i was asking for in my original post and for that i am very grateful.

This is exactly what this forum was made for.
Cheers folks

I appear to have mis understood the original post relating to it being a Symbol. Thinking back it’s probably the same toilet as fitted to the Duetto we had so my comments won’t apply. Sorry about that and you get things sorted.

No bother Dave, and cheers.
At the end of the day, it is a submersible pump, like the fishpond idea so they are bound to clog at some point.

I will fit a new one and if it lasts as long as this one before seizing, (19 years) it will probably see me (or the 'van) out :)