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What is this? Air Suspension

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Post by Po0kZ Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:14 am

Hi all, I found this in my newly purchased boxer auto-sleeper.  Does anyone know what it is?  It is in the drivers side step, below the seat.  Cheers[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Post by Solaris Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:19 am

Inflation point for rear bellows?
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Post by Bilbobaggins Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:20 am

For rear air suspension, normally set at about 1.5 to 2 bar. Surprised this wasn't covered during handover by dealer

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Post by Po0kZ Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:50 am

Thank you! It was a private sale and nothing mentioned.  As a newbie to air suspension, should the black levers be turned down when travelling?  Also any tips on how to use it generally?
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Post by Cymro Thu Jul 25, 2024 1:02 pm

Mine has a gauge for each bellows. So your taps are to enable you to use the shared gauge in turn. 

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Post by IanH Thu Jul 25, 2024 2:45 pm

Never get below 1 Bar
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Post by Po0kZ Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:20 pm

Thanks for the advice, all seems to be working fine 👍 definitely improved the drive.
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Post by Caraman Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:50 pm

Po0kZ wrote:Hi all, I found this in my newly purchased boxer auto-sleeper.  Does anyone know what it is?  It is in the drivers side step, below the seat.  Cheers[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
I don't have rear suspension bellows so this is a question for those that do.  Presumably when setting the pressure both of the above taps should be open to ensure equal pressure on both sides.  When the vehicle is then driven, should the taps be closed to ensure air can't pass from one side to the other, or, could/should they be left open so air can pass from side to side?
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Post by PLOUGHLIN Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:49 pm

With mine, both open when pressurising, then closed when driving. Open each individually to check pressure occasionally. Might be wrong or right.

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Post by Tinwheeler Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:36 pm

Agree with Peter. Open the valves to adjust and then keep them closed.
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Post by Cymro Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:56 pm

Very interesting for me as I've not hitherto seen a one-gauge system. 

Looking again at the photo, I wonder why there are 2 redundant holes to the right of the fitted pipes? Some earlier fitting / system?

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Post by The Bargee Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:53 am

I would guess that the “apprentice” initially drilled the holes in the wrong place and too close together! If the gauge was further forward then you might catch your trouser leg on it. I have found lots of instances in my van of holes being drilled in the wrong places, or the wrong sizes, e.g. for blinds, drawer runners etc. suggesting a lack of proper training, patterns/templates or QC?

My van has two gauges but no valves, and two Schraeder inflation valves, so each side is independent of the other, which I would think might be safer and more fool proof. No possibility of air transfer from one side to the other if the valves are inadvertently left open and the van is unevenly loaded, unless of course there is also some system of check valves within the manifold to keep each side independent.
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Post by Caraman Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:08 am

The bump stops which the bellows replace are only attached at the top whereas the bellows I believe are attached top and bottom.  Is there a danger that the bellows will overstretch if the vehicle is stored longterm with its wheels off the ground?
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Post by mikethebike Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:58 pm

Might be my old van.
I fitted air suspension.!
My rear suspension was on the bump stops.
Got the info from a member on this site.
Cannot remember pressures etc!!

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Post by The Bargee Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:29 pm

Caraman wrote:The bump stops which the bellows replace are only attached at the top whereas the bellows I believe are attached top and bottom.  Is there a danger that the bellows will overstretch if the vehicle is stored longterm with its wheels off the ground?
 
I guess it would not be a good idea at all to hang the axle on the air bellows. Do I recall correctly that older vehicles used to have leather straps around the axle from the chassis?
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Post by burlingtonboaby Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:06 pm

Looks like an older Dunlop air assist unit, I had that one on my 08 Sigma, worked fine.
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Post by Caraman Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:49 pm

The Bargee wrote:
Caraman wrote:The bump stops which the bellows replace are only attached at the top whereas the bellows I believe are attached top and bottom.  Is there a danger that the bellows will overstretch if the vehicle is stored longterm with its wheels off the ground?
 
I guess it would not be a good idea at all to hang the axle on the air bellows. Do I recall correctly that older vehicles used to have leather straps around the axle from the chassis?
Does the pressure have to be changed when jacking to change a wheel which of course is only short term?
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Post by Caraman Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:55 pm

I posed my concern about storing a van with rear bellows and it’s rear wheels off the ground to several semi-suspension suppliers.  Only two have replied so far and both said it’s OK.  One said the bellows’ pressure should be set to 3 bar.  The other said let all the air out but remember to re-inflate before driving.  I don’t know how accurate any of this advice is.
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