1995 Symphony little low on rear
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1995 Symphony little low on rear
Hi All
Now finished completly rebuilding my 1995 A/S Symphony too standard condition, however she is a little low on rear end, does anyone know of a reasonable answer to raising a little without going into great expense any ideas welcome.
John Dean
Now finished completly rebuilding my 1995 A/S Symphony too standard condition, however she is a little low on rear end, does anyone know of a reasonable answer to raising a little without going into great expense any ideas welcome.
John Dean
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Re: 1995 Symphony little low on rear
There has been debate on this John over the merits of different options earlier in the year /late last year
- replacment springs
- air assistance ie Airides or similar
- Grayston spring assistors - probably the cheapest option if its not too bad
One option I have never seen mentioned was adjustable shockers (ie Monroe Load Levellers), I fitted some of these in our tugging days to a Volvo estate to stiffen the back end with a mortgage, would think these are second cheapest option.
Some of the AS Boxer coachbuilts had a natural rear end up, sounds like you could do with this on your van !!
- replacment springs
- air assistance ie Airides or similar
- Grayston spring assistors - probably the cheapest option if its not too bad
One option I have never seen mentioned was adjustable shockers (ie Monroe Load Levellers), I fitted some of these in our tugging days to a Volvo estate to stiffen the back end with a mortgage, would think these are second cheapest option.
Some of the AS Boxer coachbuilts had a natural rear end up, sounds like you could do with this on your van !!
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Re: 1995 Symphony little low on rear
Hi John,johndean wrote:Hi All
Now finished completly rebuilding my 1995 A/S Symphony too standard condition, however she is a little low on rear end, does anyone know of a reasonable answer to raising a little without going into great expense any ideas welcome.
John Dean
What would you consider great expense? I fitted an air assistance kit on our '95 Symphony for the same reason. It has the added advantage over other systems by being adjustable just by putting more air in or letting some out.
I think the cost was around £300, about 5 (or even 6) years ago. I also fitted a gauge & taps for each side with the pipework brought forward to the drivers footwell.
I got mine from Marcle Leisure [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and it looks like the basic kits have gone up in price somewhat since I bought mine.
There are other places that do these kits and maybe one of those would be cheaper?
HTH
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rear end low
Hi All
Thanks for the info and input ref Symphony rear end low
Because this vehicle is only slightly low we didnt want to spend £100's of pounds to correct it.
My son who is director of parts at Peugeot came over today and suggested a couple of options 1) to fit a helper spring part number5102.G0 2) fit a longer spring assistor 130mm long part number 5166.50 which we have had a look at and might help, however the price is £76.78 better than £200/£300 for airrides. He also found these assistors from a non-Peugeot supplier at £23.00 each even better, so might try these first and let you all know the outcome.
We are only looking at a 10mm/15mm increase in height.
Regards
John Dean
Thanks for the info and input ref Symphony rear end low
Because this vehicle is only slightly low we didnt want to spend £100's of pounds to correct it.
My son who is director of parts at Peugeot came over today and suggested a couple of options 1) to fit a helper spring part number5102.G0 2) fit a longer spring assistor 130mm long part number 5166.50 which we have had a look at and might help, however the price is £76.78 better than £200/£300 for airrides. He also found these assistors from a non-Peugeot supplier at £23.00 each even better, so might try these first and let you all know the outcome.
We are only looking at a 10mm/15mm increase in height.
Regards
John Dean
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Re Rear end low.
Hi,
Interesting posts re suspension. As a matter of interest my 1999 Symphony (Pug 270M) rides "tail high" -there is approx 2 ins difference back to front in height.
The rear suspension is quite stiff, which I would expect on a medium wheelbase van, but there do not appear to be any assisters or the like fitted.
I would be interested in any comments from other 'Symph' owners re ride height and stiffness of suspension?
Mike D
Interesting posts re suspension. As a matter of interest my 1999 Symphony (Pug 270M) rides "tail high" -there is approx 2 ins difference back to front in height.
The rear suspension is quite stiff, which I would expect on a medium wheelbase van, but there do not appear to be any assisters or the like fitted.
I would be interested in any comments from other 'Symph' owners re ride height and stiffness of suspension?
Mike D
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Re: 1995 Symphony little low on rear
This is common Mike now this is fresh, watch how many Boxer owners look at you on the road !!!
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Symphony slightly low on rear
Hi All
Got the longer spring helpers from my son at Peugeot today. Set about fitting them but the worse part of the job was trying to remove the wheel bolts. Who ever fitted the wheels on must have had 3 shredded wheat that day.
Removed the short spring helpers ( some might call them bump stopps ) which was straight forward enough, jacked up the body to give room to get the longer new helpers in, refitted all wheels tighten to correct torque. She looks better, they only rise the body 10mm but that was all I was looking for. Tried to put photo's on here but that's another story. haven't road tested yet but got all the gran kits to get in back plus wife and bag of cement and she didnt look to low. the cost of the spring helpers were £40 for pair ( not peugeot which were £80.00 ). Can't say this will help others because some look much lower than mine. but seems to have worked for me. I did go and have a look at a load of new Peugeot vans and they all had the longer spring helpers however a couple of motorhome's had the short one's. By the way these longer spring helpers sit on the spring all the time same as new vans do ( no gap as motorhome's seem to have ). Regards John Dean
Got the longer spring helpers from my son at Peugeot today. Set about fitting them but the worse part of the job was trying to remove the wheel bolts. Who ever fitted the wheels on must have had 3 shredded wheat that day.
Removed the short spring helpers ( some might call them bump stopps ) which was straight forward enough, jacked up the body to give room to get the longer new helpers in, refitted all wheels tighten to correct torque. She looks better, they only rise the body 10mm but that was all I was looking for. Tried to put photo's on here but that's another story. haven't road tested yet but got all the gran kits to get in back plus wife and bag of cement and she didnt look to low. the cost of the spring helpers were £40 for pair ( not peugeot which were £80.00 ). Can't say this will help others because some look much lower than mine. but seems to have worked for me. I did go and have a look at a load of new Peugeot vans and they all had the longer spring helpers however a couple of motorhome's had the short one's. By the way these longer spring helpers sit on the spring all the time same as new vans do ( no gap as motorhome's seem to have ). Regards John Dean
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Re: 1995 Symphony little low on rear
roli wrote:There has been debate on this John over the merits of different options earlier in the year /late last year
- replacment springs
- air assistance ie Airides or similar
- Grayston spring assistors - probably the cheapest option if its not too bad
One option I have never seen mentioned was adjustable shockers (ie Monroe Load Levellers), I fitted some of these in our tugging days to a Volvo estate to stiffen the back end with a mortgage, would think these are second cheapest option.
Some of the AS Boxer coachbuilts had a natural rear end up, sounds like you could do with this on your van !!
As far as I know the Graystons are only for coil springs - also, adjustable dampers won't affect the ride height - it'll still be the same height.
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Re: 1995 Symphony little low on rear
Don't throw those 'short' spring helpers away johndean, I could do with them to lower the back end of my Symbol. It would save me the hassle of using ramps every time! Mind you, for all I know my Boxer might have the shorter helpers anyway.
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