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Milenco Stacka Levels
On my "still to investigate" list is a levelling system. Although my intention is always to use hardstanding, which will mostly be quite level, sometimes it's not going to be available, so I guess I need something.
Has anyone used the Milenco Stacka Levels system? It looks quite compact and flexible, but how many would you need. I mean ramps normally come in pairs, but this only has the top plate for one wheel. In theory you might want to raise three wheels? Then it gets expensive and complicated.
https://www.milenco.com/products/levelling/stacka-levels
Any thoughts? Trying to save weight and space, as always!
Has anyone used the Milenco Stacka Levels system? It looks quite compact and flexible, but how many would you need. I mean ramps normally come in pairs, but this only has the top plate for one wheel. In theory you might want to raise three wheels? Then it gets expensive and complicated.
https://www.milenco.com/products/levelling/stacka-levels
Any thoughts? Trying to save weight and space, as always!
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
Which wheels you use the ramps on will usually depend on which way the slope runs in relation to where you pitch, unless you have the option to orient the van in any way. However I have never known the need to ramp three wheels, only one or two.
As a general rule, if it's the front that needs raising, we usually drive on forwards; if the rear, then we reverse, particularly on soft grass, sand or gravel pitches. The logic for this, based on practical experience, is that you can drive off the ramps either in forward or reverse gear as appropriate and keep going without stopping until on firm ground so as to avoid getting bogged down. This obviously also requires orientation on the pitch to be able to drive off an open side.
Everyone has their own favourite type. Having tried a few different ones with varying success, we have settled on a combination of Fiamma Level Up ramps and Monster Mats
https://www.vancomfort.co.uk/monstermat.htm
If the levelling ramps are not required, we still use the mats under the front (driving) wheels to prevent sinking in, unless we are on hard-standing. However, if levelling is required on hard-standing we do use the mats as they grip the ramps and prevent them shooting out if you are a tad unsmooth with the accelerator.
As a general rule, if it's the front that needs raising, we usually drive on forwards; if the rear, then we reverse, particularly on soft grass, sand or gravel pitches. The logic for this, based on practical experience, is that you can drive off the ramps either in forward or reverse gear as appropriate and keep going without stopping until on firm ground so as to avoid getting bogged down. This obviously also requires orientation on the pitch to be able to drive off an open side.
Everyone has their own favourite type. Having tried a few different ones with varying success, we have settled on a combination of Fiamma Level Up ramps and Monster Mats
https://www.vancomfort.co.uk/monstermat.htm
If the levelling ramps are not required, we still use the mats under the front (driving) wheels to prevent sinking in, unless we are on hard-standing. However, if levelling is required on hard-standing we do use the mats as they grip the ramps and prevent them shooting out if you are a tad unsmooth with the accelerator.
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
We find we hardly ever need to use the ramps and it's even rarer to need them under more than one wheel. Eying up the ground and taking advantage of the Sevel van's slight nose down stance by parking the front on the higher ground seems to nearly always work. The shorter the van, the easier it is to level but we have the bog standard yellow ramps for those odd occasions.
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
Thanks for the tips. I suppose an issue with only being able to raise one wheel is that it might make the van a bit unstable when moving around inside? Probably not worth worrying about though. But I've also noticed that the system I mentioned comes with a bag, 6 blocks and one tyre plate, but you can also buy an extra 3 blocks and a second tyre plate too. Which would all fit in the bag, and give some flexibility.
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
You’d raise one wheel if only that one was lower. Once on the ramps - no matter how many wheels - it will be stable.
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
That's a good idea, is it expensive to do?
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
Thanks, I'll investigate that as well.
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
In all the years we had the 2 Warwicks we only used the levelling ramps twice. As someone else said most are nose low so going fwds into a sloping site gets it level automatically.
Using just one to lift a low corner has no stability issues at all that I could see.
As to hydraulic levelling on "our" smaller vans adds just 2 things for me....
Weight
Complexity.
BTW Complexity is the opposite of Simplicity!!!
Using just one to lift a low corner has no stability issues at all that I could see.
As to hydraulic levelling on "our" smaller vans adds just 2 things for me....
Weight
Complexity.
BTW Complexity is the opposite of Simplicity!!!
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
£180, fare price I'd say if thats what you think you need.
we carry a pair of black plastic ramps, Fiamma I think, bought second hand for £10 ( because as usual " I thought we desperately needed them as kit" )
First site we ever stayed on I used the the nose down aspect of the van to our advantage but we were still 1 or 2 degs out of level, Other half said "and"???
I looked around and found in the hedge two short pieces of timber.
approx 14"- 16" long , 10" wide and 2 1/2" thick. Drove onto them and perfectly level.
I later modified one end of each piece by sawing a short chamfer , like mini wedges ( easy to stow away under benches)
Those two pieces of timber on their own get used about 90% of the time and usually only to adjust the vans side to side levelling .
Easy to remember 1 or 2degs out on iPad app, timber wedges to the rescue.
Big plastic ramps stay in their bag ( ready to be used when all else fails or regimental site officer insists we drive into pitch etc)
we carry a pair of black plastic ramps, Fiamma I think, bought second hand for £10 ( because as usual " I thought we desperately needed them as kit" )
First site we ever stayed on I used the the nose down aspect of the van to our advantage but we were still 1 or 2 degs out of level, Other half said "and"???
I looked around and found in the hedge two short pieces of timber.
approx 14"- 16" long , 10" wide and 2 1/2" thick. Drove onto them and perfectly level.
I later modified one end of each piece by sawing a short chamfer , like mini wedges ( easy to stow away under benches)
Those two pieces of timber on their own get used about 90% of the time and usually only to adjust the vans side to side levelling .
Easy to remember 1 or 2degs out on iPad app, timber wedges to the rescue.
Big plastic ramps stay in their bag ( ready to be used when all else fails or regimental site officer insists we drive into pitch etc)
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
I like the suspension idea because mine isn’t level on my driveway, either laterally or longitudinally, and using ramps there would be very difficult. I’m also not convinced it’s totally level laterally when on the road and loaded up, but adjusting it at the moment using a manual pump is fiddly because of the poor mounting location of the valves and gauges too close to the B pillar.
I also wonder if I can manage without, although it’s quite annoying when the sink won’t fully drain. And I think the fridge has a fairly narrow tolerance to work properly.
I also wonder if I can manage without, although it’s quite annoying when the sink won’t fully drain. And I think the fridge has a fairly narrow tolerance to work properly.
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
My van isn't level on the driveway either, V8, but it really doesn't matter to me.
I'm very much with IanH in that simple is best and ramps are a rarely used item so cheapest will do fine.
I'm very much with IanH in that simple is best and ramps are a rarely used item so cheapest will do fine.
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I'm a bit confused on this. It is described as an "upgrade kit" and some of the comments imply that our vans already have sir suspension assisters. Mine certainly doesn't. Is this only applicable to Coriniia and the like?FreelanderUK wrote:Sorry it was £162, eBay item number 163711136329
Also I see that £162 does not include the import duties from Slovenia. From the tales circulating that could add around £50?
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inspiredron wrote:I'm a bit confused on this. It is described as an "upgrade kit" and some of the comments imply that our vans already have sir suspension assisters. Mine certainly doesn't. Is this only applicable to Coriniia and the like?FreelanderUK wrote:Sorry it was £162, eBay item number 163711136329
Also I see that £162 does not include the import duties from Slovenia. From the tales circulating that could add around £50?
That assumes you already have air suspension at the rear. Auto sleeper PVCs do as standard, but with manual adjustment which is less flexible.
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
I have only used my cheap ramps four times in ten years.
As long as my dinner dosen't slide off the table thats level enough for me
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As long as my dinner dosen't slide off the table thats level enough for me
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
When I reverse my WXL onto our drive the slope measured on the counter top is 4 degrees, with the rear end lower than front. Haven't had any problems with fridge on gas or electric when getting ready to go away, but wouldn't like to sleep in the van at that angle
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Bilbobaggins wrote:When I reverse my WXL onto our drive the slope measured on the counter top is 4 degrees, with the rear end lower than front. Haven't had any problems with fridge on gas or electric when getting ready to go away, but wouldn't like to sleep in the van at that angle
Mine is also 4 degrees with the rear lower, and the fridge seems to work as well. It did take ages to light the first time on gas, but has been ok since. I have slept in it at that angle, and it was slightly weird. The kitchen sink not draining fully was messy.
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I think most of the PVC come with air suspension fitted as standard, my WXL certainly did and as mentioned this is an upgrade kit ,I paid no duty as bought just be for we left the European Union this available to buy in the UK so no duty is payedinspiredron wrote:I'm a bit confused on this. It is described as an "upgrade kit" and some of the comments imply that our vans already have sir suspension assisters. Mine certainly doesn't. Is this only applicable to Coriniia and the like?FreelanderUK wrote:Sorry it was £162, eBay item number 163711136329
Also I see that £162 does not include the import duties from Slovenia. From the tales circulating that could add around
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
I’m intrigued how some of you have managed to get away with only using the ramps on the very odd occasion? I’m not fussy about the van being completely level but I have to get the ramps out at least 70% of the time.
Could it be the different type of pitches/sites we use? I like to use a lot of sites that aren’t very regimented or laid out with flat pitches and with the van only being 5.4m, often end up parking the van in some lovely spots that perhaps a bigger van wouldn’t dream of attempting!
Could it be the different type of pitches/sites we use? I like to use a lot of sites that aren’t very regimented or laid out with flat pitches and with the van only being 5.4m, often end up parking the van in some lovely spots that perhaps a bigger van wouldn’t dream of attempting!
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I think it’s almost certainly down to the type of site/pitch one uses, with a bit of personal preference thrown in for good measure.Dbvwt wrote:I’m intrigued how some of you have managed to get away with only using the ramps on the very odd occasion? I’m not fussy about the van being completely level but I have to get the ramps out at least 70% of the time.
Could it be the different type of pitches/sites we use? I like to use a lot of sites that aren’t very regimented or laid out with flat pitches and with the van only being 5.4m, often end up parking the van in some lovely spots that perhaps a bigger van wouldn’t dream of attempting!
I’m on my 4th year with this van, using a mx of club sites, small CS, private sites, hard standing and grass, and a couple of wild spots, and I’ve never used ramps once. I don’t own any!
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Sally wrote:I think it’s almost certainly down to the type of site/pitch one uses, with a bit of personal preference thrown in for good measure.Dbvwt wrote:I’m intrigued how some of you have managed to get away with only using the ramps on the very odd occasion? I’m not fussy about the van being completely level but I have to get the ramps out at least 70% of the time.
Could it be the different type of pitches/sites we use? I like to use a lot of sites that aren’t very regimented or laid out with flat pitches and with the van only being 5.4m, often end up parking the van in some lovely spots that perhaps a bigger van wouldn’t dream of attempting!
I’m on my 4th year with this van, using a mx of club sites, small CS, private sites, hard standing and grass, and a couple of wild spots, and I’ve never used ramps once. I don’t own any!
I like that answer because it means I might not need to buy any
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Re: Milenco Stacka Levels
There is a simple, perhaps obvious solution (don't like stating the obvious) but if you park the thing on level ground it'll be level!!!!Dbvwt wrote:I’m intrigued how some of you have managed to get away with only using the ramps on the very odd occasion? I’m not fussy about the van being completely level but I have to get the ramps out at least 70% of the time.
Could it be the different type of pitches/sites we use? I like to use a lot of sites that aren’t very regimented or laid out with flat pitches and with the van only being 5.4m, often end up parking the van in some lovely spots that perhaps a bigger van wouldn’t dream of attempting!
Joking apart, here's a good example of parking a nose low Warwick Duo on a sloping site to get a level van, and I am fussy re level.
Bigger advantage is that with the Warwick, the best views are through the rear doors, so double whammy in this case!
Guy parked next to us, wasn't you was it?!!
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If I was parked next to you Ian (or any A/S) then I would have come over and said hello.
You call that a sloping pitch?? Perhaps that’s my problem, in search of the best spot on a site, my Symbol ends up in places it probably shouldn’t be
You call that a sloping pitch?? Perhaps that’s my problem, in search of the best spot on a site, my Symbol ends up in places it probably shouldn’t be
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