Water pump no water

Hi Dave, thanks very much for the helpful information about Cirencester. It is very useful to have recomendations. We look forward to our trip there and will certainly visit those foody places you have suggested. It all sounds very tempting!

Thanks again

Pete

There's a Corinium museum already !!! It only came out last year.    




Jesse Smith butchers is superb. Just past the Corinium Museum. Try their lamb and apricot pies, and the hot cheese and bacon turnovers. http://www.cirencestershopping.co.uk/jessesmith/

willy eckerslike wrote:Jesse Smith butchers is superb. Just past the Corinium Museum. Try their lamb and apricot pies, and the hot cheese and bacon turnovers. http://www.cirencestershopping.co.uk/jessesmith/

Glad you agree Willy.

Just had the last two cheese and bacon turnovers for supper tonight.

Got a couple of pies in the freezer though!

New owner of renault autosleeper recro 1993. I don't know how to turn the water on I have thrown the switches and you can hear the pump working. But turninng on the tap there is no water coming through.can someone help me with this please.

troublesomeriver wrote:Thanks for the comments, harrysp.  I am prepared to try anything and fingers crossed.  Although the more I read about Shurflo, that may well be the way to go.  ARE YOU READING THIS AUTO-SLEEPER!!

We' be now had our van back from A/S with the Shurflo pump fitted. It is in the offside locker, between the leisure battery casing and the wardrobe, exactly where we asked it to be. The pressure switch has been removed as has the original pump from the tank. When we  filled the tank with water, it flowed through with no coaxing and opening and closing of taps needed. It's quiet too. Very pleased with it. 

H

harrysp wrote:

When we  filled the tank with water, it flowed through with no coaxing and opening and closing of taps needed. It's quiet too. Very pleased with it. 

Yep!

Excellent aren't they - just as they have been for many years past. I won't bother to ask why A/S went down the penny pinching road!!

I wish they would realise there's no point in fixing it if it ain't bust!!!   It's relative trivial things like this that wind owners up and get A/S a bad name. So easy to avoid as well.

Hi Gromit , you probably have guessed I dont exactly love A/s after my experiences and much as it pains me but checking prices tonight , a shurflo trail king 20psi 7 litre per min pump recommended by some is  around £50. The whale high flow pump fitted by A/s is £35 with 15.8 litres per min flow at same pressure but a pressure flow switch is also required to make the system work at £28 so overall fitting the whale system is a good bit More expensive at time of build ( and probably not proved in service as reliable!) So not the cheap pump everyone thinks
     Point is,  be careful which shurflo model you fit as when working properly the whale shifts a  lot of water compared to the standard trail king. I believe they now have at least 2 new models which have higher flow rates but with increased pressure. Just something to be aware of. Also an in line filter might be advisable also from shurflo at around £6 . Hope this gives worthwhile food for thought.

Harrysp..On your Broadway, is the leisure battery at right angles to the front of the locker or does it sit parallel to the locker front?  I am asking because our is at right angles to the locker front and there is quite a lot of pipework between the battery and the wardrobe bulkhead which would have to be moved if a pump were to be installed there.

merv wrote:Harrysp..On your Broadway, is the leisure battery at right angles to the front of the locker or does it sit parallel to the locker front?  I am asking because our is at right angles to the locker front and there is quite a lot of pipework between the battery and the wardrobe bulkhead which would have to be moved if a pump were to be installed there.

Our battery is at right angle to the front of the locker, about 2ft from the end of the wardrobe. We too have some pipes etc in there, but the Shurflo seemed to fit nicely. Off for a few days tomorrow so will give it a good test. 

Harry

kaspian wrote:Hi Gromit , you probably have guessed I dont exactly love A/s after my experiences and much as it pains me but checking prices tonight , a shurflo trail king 20psi 7 litre per min pump recommended by some is  around £50. The whale high flow pump fitted by A/s is £35 with 15.8 litres per min flow at same pressure but a pressure flow switch is also required to make the system work at £28 so overall fitting the whale system is a good bit More expensive at time of build ( and probably not proved in service as reliable!) So not the cheap pump everyone thinks
     Point is,  be careful which shurflo model you fit as when working properly the whale shifts a  lot of water compared to the standard trail king. I believe they now have at least 2 new models which have higher flow rates but with increased pressure. Just something to be aware of. Also an in line filter might be advisable also from shurflo at around £6 . Hope this gives worthwhile food for thought.

Thanks for that Kaspian.

Most of what you say is the same as I've bleated about a couple of times.

I must preface this by saying there may be more to it that I'm aware of, but it would seem to me the perfect solution is to offer the good old "hole in the wall" with a Shurflo as the standard fitting, with an option to have the much more complex Whale pump and filling system instead, or as well as. That way both camps would be happy.

The part that does not tally with my practical experience is the flow rates you quote. The 20psi Shurflo definitely gives a higher flow rate than we got from the submersible, though I wouldn't like to estimate by how much. This was very obvious when we first used the new pump, so I'm wondering if your sources of information are reliable? Do A/S fit the same Whale model that you mention?

Don't know, but we are far happier and much more confident in setting off on holiday with the Shurflo and the hole in the wall.

Thanks Harry. Sounds exactly the same position as ours.

Hi Gromit , yes my van was fitted with the whale high flow pump which came from A/s as standard as they also supplied the replacement. The data comes from the respective manufacturers so can only assume as accurate. Certainly when I tried before assembly the whale pump shot a 20mm diameter  jet of water over my shoulder missing my good looks by inches and cleared my garage roof!
         I have said before the problem with my pump is it ran OK but the impeller is a push fit on the motor shaft and slipped when under load ie when pumping water . This led to intermittent/ low /no flow from taps.Also would not start to pressurise from dry ie when arriving on site  . I suspect this may be common to others experiences around the 2014 model year and the air lock theory nonsense is a red herring . The pump is submerged in water at the bottom of  the tank with the impeller a few millimeters from the end of the housing how can this air lock? . Can you check  the model number on your shurflo  pump in case you have a higher capacity pump fitted - shurflo make several of varying capacities. The trail king 7 is only 7l per min. Seven litres  per min at 20psi at the taps may be perfectly adequate for our needs so if this is your pump and you are happy with the flow it would save the expense of others purchasing larger pumps in the range  if not necessary and give confidence to those ordering a new pump if they wish to convert to a diaphragm pump. Also beware that the higher capacity shurflo pumps tend to pump at higher pressure ie 30 plus psi which if your pipework and the poor quality of installation is anything like ours may blow all the connections apart! Several of our push fit pipe connectors were strapped tightly to other pipes or wiring putting pressure on the fittings release rings which meant that when I replaced the whale pump the increased pressure blew the connections apart.

Re Cirencester.....
I know it well, live just a few miles away but worked in Ciren for several years...lovely, lovely town...supposed to be a nice site too (even if it is Caravan Club owned...). Would recommend it highly...thanks Dave