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no water
Hi there could my water be frozen as all of a suden ive no water coming out of taps or toilet but I can here the pump working hard , any sugestions please. ROGER
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Re: no water
roger m fox wrote:any sugestions please.
Can I suggest that you tell us what the temperature is (and has been recently) wherever you happen to be at the moment? We might be able to infer something useful from that information.
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Re: no water
Hi there,
If it's not frozen then it will be air-locked OR ....
.... if it has frozen and now thawed out it could be a split pipe or filter OR ....
.... if you have drained it down for winter and forgotten something ?????
Best regards,
If it's not frozen then it will be air-locked OR ....
.... if it has frozen and now thawed out it could be a split pipe or filter OR ....
.... if you have drained it down for winter and forgotten something ?????
Best regards,
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Re: no water
Thank you for your answers the temperature has bean down to 0 but not minus I live in cornwall, ive not drained the system down but iam going to now . thank you
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Re: no water
Hi there,roger m fox wrote:Thank you for your answers the temperature has bean down to 0 but not minus I live in cornwall, ive not drained the system down but iam going to now . thank you
Don't drain it down until you have discovered why you don't have any water because all you will be doing is putting off a problem until next Spring.
Fill it up and bleed the system until you get water flowing normally and THEN ....
.... drain everything down ....
.... blow the pipes free of water ....
.... take her for a spin with everything open.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
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Re: no water
Thank you for your quick response I shall do as you say wish me luck and thanks again .ROGER
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Re: no water
Daft question but has yours got the auto drain valve thingamajig that may have opened in the cold and still be open?
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Re: no water
Thank you but I don't rearly know were the drain plug is? ROGER
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Re: no water
Last time this happened to me, the water pipe had become disconnected at the pump / filter. They are a simple push-fit and easy to fix once I realised what had happened.
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Re: no water
I am with Jaytee, very likely the dump valve has opened and you have pumped all the water out, whatever you do turn the pump off do not let in run dry. You are very close to Marquis sure they will help if you cannot find it. It happened to me before I knew there even was a dump valve.
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Re: no water
I don't think Symphony's have dump valves, mine certainly didn't.
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Re: no water
Hi
Don’t know why the water isn’t pumping but as far as I know a 1997 Symphony hasn’t got an automatic dump valve. I think it’s an almost identical system the Duetto!
Brod.
Agreed.Paulmold wrote:I don't think Symphony's have dump valves, mine certainly didn't.
Don’t know why the water isn’t pumping but as far as I know a 1997 Symphony hasn’t got an automatic dump valve. I think it’s an almost identical system the Duetto!
If it’s the standard Carver Cascade fitted in 1997 it’s at the bottom left of the cowling on the outside of the van and there is a ¼ turn valve at the top to speed up the drainage. Just in case you’re not aware it’s important to remove it when you drain down. Draining the fresh water tank doesn’t drain the water heater, an expensive mistake if you forget it.roger m fox wrote:Thank you but I don't rearly know were the drain plug is? ROGER
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Re: no water
The new Symphony's might but mine certainly hasn't got one, Perhaps if Roger would tell us the year of his van, we might have a better idea?Paulmold wrote:I don't think Symphony's have dump valves, mine certainly didn't.
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Re: no water
Hi
1997 according to his profile
Brod
boxerman wrote:The new Symphony's might but mine certainly hasn't got one, Perhaps if Roger would tell us the year of his van, we might have a better idea?Paulmold wrote:I don't think Symphony's have dump valves, mine certainly didn't.
1997 according to his profile
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Re: no water
Thanks Brod
I agree that I doubt it having a dump valve. I have, in the past had the pipe 'blow off' the spigot to the carver dumping a tankful of water onto the ground and into the chassis. I've also had something accidentally resting on the toilet flush resulting in the toilet overflowing into the shower tray and from there into the waste tank. Emptying one tank and filling the other
Frank
I agree that I doubt it having a dump valve. I have, in the past had the pipe 'blow off' the spigot to the carver dumping a tankful of water onto the ground and into the chassis. I've also had something accidentally resting on the toilet flush resulting in the toilet overflowing into the shower tray and from there into the waste tank. Emptying one tank and filling the other
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Re: no water
I live about 8 miles from saltash and although it has been fairly mild we did have a minus 3/4 degree heavy frost one day last week! A 1997 M/H would be rare with a dump valve, so lets hope freezing water has "popped" a pipe joint somewhere.Dutto has the right idea better to get it sorted before next season.I would make sure you have water in the system and that it is being pumped,if the problem is still there then look under the van to give you an idea to where to start looking for a leak, water has got to go somewhere!! REGARDS Paul
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Re: no water
Could it just be he has used his water up?
There is a gauge for water amount( not precise?)
Micky
There is a gauge for water amount( not precise?)
Micky
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Re: no water
Hi there its Roger here. well ive checked all hoses, all ok but noticed that the inline filter to the pump was empty so I took outlet hose off pump then switched pump on. pump running but no water coming out of pump . could this mean new pump ?
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Re: no water
Hi Roger, The weather has not been cold enough in your part of the world to freeze your water system solid..IMHO.
Can you try putting water in and seeing if you have a leak,or the pump is working moving air and water?
Micky
Can you try putting water in and seeing if you have a leak,or the pump is working moving air and water?
Micky
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Re: no water
Might be an air lock? With tank really full try again
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Re: no water
Almost certainly not!roger m fox wrote:Hi there its Roger here. well ive checked all hoses, all ok but noticed that the inline filter to the pump was empty so I took outlet hose off pump then switched pump on. pump running but no water coming out of pump . could this mean new pump ?
It usually means that the system isn't primed.
Fill tank - close off all except one cold tap - attach hose to tap - turn on pump - suck on hose - stop sucking when you start choking.
If the water then stops it still doesn't mean a new pump but it may need a new diaphragm at about half the price or less.
Best regards,
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Re: no water
ok I will have another go on sat as the weather looks better , I will do as you sugest thank you so much .Roger
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Re: no water
Hi there. Roger here well what can I say I did what you said and now we have water thank you all so very much for all your help . One more Question though . We use our camper nearly every day as its our only transport except of course my little Honda 90 . Do I still have to drain the water system down .
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Re: no water
Well Roger I would drain down everything personally, the water tank ,boiler,waste tank , and if you have a separate flush tank that as well! Only if you use your amenities when you use it for frequent trips you might consider leaving some water where appropriate ,but keep a keen eye on weather forecasts! We live just down the road near Tideford and we have the same weather as you and have been caught out with water freezing in pipes ,even though we were "drained down "I now blow the system through to be on the safe side! REGARDS Paull
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Re: no water
Thank you I will do as you say and drain everything down .Merry chcristmas .
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