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Payload
Hi Everyone. Now and again up comes the question of payload and this can be confusing, as in my case.
I have bought a new EK TB LP Broadway and looking through the 2014 brochure, noticed in the Vehicle picture section, it said max payload was 374kg. In the weights and dimensions section under my model it says 471kg. As I have not yet picked up my motorhome I have nothing to check which one is correct. Having phoned the dealer, they said they use the highest figure but if that's wrong I could be breaking the law. I asked if they could verify this, but as yet not heard from them.
Any fellow owners out there with this model, your knowledge would be a great help.
Regards The Bad Penny:wave:
I have bought a new EK TB LP Broadway and looking through the 2014 brochure, noticed in the Vehicle picture section, it said max payload was 374kg. In the weights and dimensions section under my model it says 471kg. As I have not yet picked up my motorhome I have nothing to check which one is correct. Having phoned the dealer, they said they use the highest figure but if that's wrong I could be breaking the law. I asked if they could verify this, but as yet not heard from them.
Any fellow owners out there with this model, your knowledge would be a great help.
Regards The Bad Penny:wave:
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Re: Payload
You have read the brochure correctly and their is a discrepancy between the information on pages 21 and 44 for all of the 'short' Broadways.
If you feel you have been misled in any way during the purchase process then you can only raise that through the dealer and in any event you could ask him to confirm in writing the maximum user payload.
In any event, whenever I take delivery of a new (to me) van. I fill up with fuel, water and gas and all the fixed camping gear (chairs, bbq, etc) and take it with Chris to the weighbridge. I than know how much capacity we have for food and clothes.
Peter
If you feel you have been misled in any way during the purchase process then you can only raise that through the dealer and in any event you could ask him to confirm in writing the maximum user payload.
In any event, whenever I take delivery of a new (to me) van. I fill up with fuel, water and gas and all the fixed camping gear (chairs, bbq, etc) and take it with Chris to the weighbridge. I than know how much capacity we have for food and clothes.
Peter
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Re: Payload
Thanks Peter for your quick response, something which has just occurred to me is, could the discrepancy be to do with fact I specified the Premium and Winter Packs. Which could be the difference between the basic max payload and the greater specification payload. What do you think?
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Re: Payload
I agree entirely with Peter's point about actually weighing the van in fully loaded condition as you intend to use it.
However, I'm fairly sure the dealer will be breaking its obligation under the Sale of Goods Act, because the van must be "as described" - which is impossible if the description contradicts itself. In reality there is ~no~ uncertainty about how to calulate User Payload. There is a clearly defined formula, and everything down to the weight of the "average" driver and the amount of fuel in the tank is accounted for in the formula.
The difference in the brochure is ~probably~ due to different options being fitted to the models shown. You can be sure that someone at A-S knows the correct answer, so it's probably just a question of persuading the dealer to ask with enough conviction...
However, I'm fairly sure the dealer will be breaking its obligation under the Sale of Goods Act, because the van must be "as described" - which is impossible if the description contradicts itself. In reality there is ~no~ uncertainty about how to calulate User Payload. There is a clearly defined formula, and everything down to the weight of the "average" driver and the amount of fuel in the tank is accounted for in the formula.
The difference in the brochure is ~probably~ due to different options being fitted to the models shown. You can be sure that someone at A-S knows the correct answer, so it's probably just a question of persuading the dealer to ask with enough conviction...
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Re: Payload
Thanks Mojo, I think you are on right lines, It could well be to do with a higher specification.
Of course as you and Peter rightfully say, use a weighbridge to determine the exact max figure using the formula. My Burstner had listed all the weights of each extra available so they could be deducted off the standard payload, this I found very useful and quite accurate. Something I had forgotten about.
Many thanks To you.
The Bad Penny
Of course as you and Peter rightfully say, use a weighbridge to determine the exact max figure using the formula. My Burstner had listed all the weights of each extra available so they could be deducted off the standard payload, this I found very useful and quite accurate. Something I had forgotten about.
Many thanks To you.
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