Habitation Door lock broken
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Habitation Door lock broken
My wife and I own a 2010 Nuevo EK two berth motorhome from new. Recently, we have experience difficulty in securing the habitation door because the bottom of the two bolts is loose and does not engage properly. Any advice on what should be done would be gratefully received. I will send photographs in a separate posting since I have tried this afternoon to send text and photographs to no avail.
If no photographs follow then I apologise still ask for any advice from members. Thank you in advance
If no photographs follow then I apologise still ask for any advice from members. Thank you in advance
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
Do you mean problems with the snapover catches or the u bolts that are fitted to the door frame? My 2012 started to have problems where the bottom snapover did not engage properly,saving the door only half caught at the bottom. I thought one of the lock springs had failed but a long trial and error process of adjustment of the bottom u fastener on the frame made the door lock better than it ever had since new.
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Habitation Door Lock Broken
This is so frustrating because I have taken very clear photographs of the problem but am unable to upload them to the website.
The problem is with the locking mechanism on the very edge of the door, not the frame of the the door which is part of the motorhome itself.
The "bolt" in the locking mechanism should have great resistance, but I am able to move the lower locking mechanism with my finger.
Sorry, but that is the best description I can give.
The problem is with the locking mechanism on the very edge of the door, not the frame of the the door which is part of the motorhome itself.
The "bolt" in the locking mechanism should have great resistance, but I am able to move the lower locking mechanism with my finger.
Sorry, but that is the best description I can give.
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
Send your photos to me by email (I've sent my email address by PM to you) and I'll put them on here for you.
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
PM not opened yet. Jamie not been on forum since last post above.Paulmold wrote:Send your photos to me by email (I've sent my email address by PM to you) and I'll put them on here for you.
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
You should be able to rotate (with a finger but against some resistance) the claw in two clicks, first to the half latched positions and then to a fully closed position. In both of these it should not rotate back again without pulling the opening handle but pulling the handle allows the claw to return to the fully open position. The function of that claw is to wrap itself fully round the D shaped hasp and to hold the door securely closed, even against a crash situation. If the D hasp is not properly adjusted it can either allow the door to rattle (too loose) or prevent the claw from fully rotating thus causing the door to bounce back to the half closed position. Getting the balance right in that adjustment of the D is quite difficult and also critical. In my own case the lower D was too tight so that it was preventing that claw from getting to the second click. It took a good half hour or so to get the adjustment right but, when it was right, the claw pulled the door tight closed. In some instances one or both of the springs on the claw have broken and then no amount of adjustment will help the claw to grip properly. But the springs can be replaced.Jaime 007 wrote:This is so frustrating because I have taken very clear photographs of the problem but am unable to upload them to the website.
The problem is with the locking mechanism on the very edge of the door, not the frame of the the door which is part of the motorhome itself.
The "bolt" in the locking mechanism should have great resistance, but I am able to move the lower locking mechanism with my finger.
Sorry, but that is the best description I can give.
I hope that helps.
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
You should be able to rotate (with a finger but against some resistance) the claw in two clicks, first to the half latched positions and then to a fully closed position. In both of these it should not rotate back again without pulling the opening handle but pulling the handle allows the claw to return to the fully open position. The function of that claw is to wrap itself fully round the D shaped hasp and to hold the door securely closed, even against a crash situation. If the D hasp is not properly adjusted it can either allow the door to rattle (too loose) or prevent the claw from fully rotating thus causing the door to bounce back to the half closed position. Getting the balance right in that adjustment of the D is quite difficult and also critical. In my own case the lower D was too tight so that it was preventing that claw from getting to the second click. It took a good half hour or so to get the adjustment right but, when it was right, the claw pulled the door tight closed. In some instances one or both of the springs on the claw have broken and then no amount of adjustment will help the claw to grip properly. But the springs can be replaced.Jaime 007 wrote:This is so frustrating because I have taken very clear photographs of the problem but am unable to upload them to the website.
The problem is with the locking mechanism on the very edge of the door, not the frame of the the door which is part of the motorhome itself.
The "bolt" in the locking mechanism should have great resistance, but I am able to move the lower locking mechanism with my finger.
Sorry, but that is the best description I can give.
I hope that helps.
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
Jaime has still not been back on forum I've deleted my PM to him.
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
That looks very much like a Dometic seitz handle, do a search on google for problems with that handle
Last edited by FreelanderUK on Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:13 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
Probably the hooked rod connection (no.2 in this picture) disconnected from the latch?
https://www.reimo.com/en/spare-part-shop/spare-parts-for-dometic-spare-parts-for-seitz/spare-parts-for-dometic-cara-d-caravan-door/9130/lock-mechanism-carad-i300plus/i600plus
Seitz CaraD-Rplus parts diagrams. https://www.reimo.com/de/bilder/intern/ersatzteile-daten_2012/dometic-seitz/product-documentation/data/61%20carad-rplus.pdf
https://www.reimo.com/en/spare-part-shop/spare-parts-for-dometic-spare-parts-for-seitz/spare-parts-for-dometic-cara-d-caravan-door/9130/lock-mechanism-carad-i300plus/i600plus
Seitz CaraD-Rplus parts diagrams. https://www.reimo.com/de/bilder/intern/ersatzteile-daten_2012/dometic-seitz/product-documentation/data/61%20carad-rplus.pdf
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Habitation Door Lock broken
Thank you to Paul (Moderator) for uploading my photos and for contributions from "Freelander" and "Ploughlin".
I have been in contact with Auto Sleepers Technical department and I have been given a quote from them, but they are so busy that they can't do the work until 23rd November!
Anyway, once again thanks to everyone who have contributed to this topic. Your efforts are very much appreciated.
I have been in contact with Auto Sleepers Technical department and I have been given a quote from them, but they are so busy that they can't do the work until 23rd November!
Anyway, once again thanks to everyone who have contributed to this topic. Your efforts are very much appreciated.
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
Just to clarify, I'm not a moderator.Jaime 007 wrote:Thank you to Paul (Moderator) for uploading my photos and for contributions from "Freelander" and "Ploughlin"
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Re: Habitation Door lock broken
You can ignore my comments. My Hartal locking system is totally different from yours.
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