Daft 1st question from newby
+4
Askit
KMRTOPAZ
crosgor
Molly3
8 posters
The Auto-Sleeper Motorhome Owners Forum (ASOF) :: Auto-Sleeper Motorhome Forums :: Auto-Sleeper "Coachbuilt Motorhomes" Forum
Page 1 of 1
Daft 1st question from newby
Just taken delivery of 2014 nuevo all seems well apart from one Niggle ,the outside temp reads very low about 5 degrees .can it be adjusted or am I stuck with it .
Molly3- Member
-
Posts : 616
Joined : 2017-11-07
Location : Sheffield
Auto-Sleeper Model : Nuevo
Vehicle Year : 2014
First daft answer.
Moving the van down to Costa del Sol will raise it some.
crosgor- Donator
-
Posts : 237
Joined : 2017-06-23
Member Age : 69
Location : Monkseaton
Auto-Sleeper Model : ex-Symbol
Vehicle Year : 2005
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
It isn't a daft question. As has been said before on this forum, no questions are daft questions.
On the other hand, there are quite often daft answers. But of course, you have already realised this having already had two!
Always in a spirit of friendly banter.
Keith
On the other hand, there are quite often daft answers. But of course, you have already realised this having already had two!
Always in a spirit of friendly banter.
Keith
KMRTOPAZ- Donator
-
Posts : 868
Joined : 2014-12-26
Member Age : 92
Location : Sandbach Cheshire
Auto-Sleeper Model : Topaz T5
Vehicle Year : 2013
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
That sounds positively balmy, come up here where you can put a minus in front of the 5 this morningMolly3 wrote:Just taken delivery of 2014 nuevo all seems well apart from one Niggle ,the outside temp reads very low about 5 degrees .can it be adjusted or am I stuck with it .
_________________
Tony
Askit- Donator
-
Posts : 5147
Joined : 2015-05-16
Member Age : 75
Location : West of Scotland
Auto-Sleeper Model : Neuvo EK LP
Vehicle Year : 2015
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
As far as I know it can't be adjusted, but I don't recall ever looking at our readout so I've never bothered to find out.
I have this wonderful sixth sense you see - the moment I open the outside door I can tell if I need me 'at an' coat.
I have this wonderful sixth sense you see - the moment I open the outside door I can tell if I need me 'at an' coat.
Gromit- Donator
-
Posts : 7265
Joined : 2015-03-11
Member Age : 81
Location : Worcestershire
Auto-Sleeper Model : Nuevo EK LP
Vehicle Year : 2015
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
I've done a bit of research and it seems that it is most likely a wiring fault between the sensor and the ecu (probably a dirty connection somewhere giving a slightly higher resistance) The sensor itself may be located in the passenger mirror.
crosgor- Donator
-
Posts : 237
Joined : 2017-06-23
Member Age : 69
Location : Monkseaton
Auto-Sleeper Model : ex-Symbol
Vehicle Year : 2005
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
This may be of interest, and it's so cheap there's very little risk if it turns out to be useless.
From the description I think it should work on a single glazed window, such as the "quarter light". Not sure if it would be so good on a double glazed acrylic side window.
LINK HERE
From the description I think it should work on a single glazed window, such as the "quarter light". Not sure if it would be so good on a double glazed acrylic side window.
LINK HERE
Gromit- Donator
-
Posts : 7265
Joined : 2015-03-11
Member Age : 81
Location : Worcestershire
Auto-Sleeper Model : Nuevo EK LP
Vehicle Year : 2015
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
crosgor wrote:I've done a bit of research and it seems that it is most likely a wiring fault between the sensor and the ecu (probably a dirty connection somewhere giving a slightly higher resistance) The sensor itself may be located in the passenger mirror.
I've never really given any though as to where Sargent fit the sensor to read external temperature. I've seen the sensor adjacent to the leisure battery that controls the charger and I've dismantled/reassembled my passenger side mirror a few times but seen nothing there.
_________________
Peter #1
Peter Brown- Donator
-
Posts : 10634
Joined : 2012-11-10
Member Age : 72
Location : Staffs
Auto-Sleeper Model : Broadway EB
Vehicle Year : 2016
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
The sensible place to fit it would be in the Hab area awning light. I doubt it is recieving a signal from the base vehicle external sensor/ecu.
_________________
Peter L
PLOUGHLIN- Donator
-
Posts : 4892
Joined : 2014-06-24
Member Age : 54
Location : NORTH HERTS
Auto-Sleeper Model : MB Gloucester
Vehicle Year : 2011
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
PLOUGHLIN wrote:The sensible place to fit it would be in the Hab area awning light. I doubt it is recieving a signal from the base vehicle external sensor/ecu.
Its not in there on mine - just had to strip it down to replace a bulb!!!
_________________
Peter #1
Peter Brown- Donator
-
Posts : 10634
Joined : 2012-11-10
Member Age : 72
Location : Staffs
Auto-Sleeper Model : Broadway EB
Vehicle Year : 2016
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
On my Nuevo I am fairly sure that Sargent external temperature matches that shown on dashboard. And I also think that sensor is in one of the door mirrors on Peugeot/Fiat - possibly different on Mercedes. I believe that the Sargent gets the info from the vehicle computer via pins 9 & 10 of the vehicle input plug to the EM50 which are specific CAN BUS connections.PLOUGHLIN wrote:The sensible place to fit it would be in the Hab area awning light. I doubt it is recieving a signal from the base vehicle external sensor/ecu.
_________________
Best wishes - Ron
inspiredron- Member
-
Posts : 3436
Joined : 2012-06-03
Member Age : 83
Location : Ellesmere, Shropshire
Auto-Sleeper Model : Lancashire
Vehicle Year : 2012
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
According to Sargent EM50 connector pin layout pdf I have pin 9 & 10 are not used.
Pin Fiat SES Description
1= [W] (W) THIRD BRAKE LIGHT FEED FROM CAB
2= [N/B] (W/N) D- SIGNAL FROM CAB (-VE ENGINE RUN)
3= [N/G] VEHICLE SPEED SIGNAL
4= [R/B] (R) DOOR LOCK SIGNAL
5= [B/R] (B/R) DOOR UNLOCK SIGNAL
6= [P/B] REAR DOOR SIGNAL INPUT TO CAB
7= [G/R] CEILING LIGHT +VE SUPPLY FROM CAB
8= [G/W] CEILING LIGHT -VE SUPPLY FROM CAB
9= [K/W] CAN BUS SIGNAL (LOW)
10= [K/B] CAN BUS SIGNAL (HIGH)
11= [R/Y] (P) SIDE MARKER SIGNAL FROM CAB
12= [Y/G] (Y/G) AIRCON SIGNAL FROM CAB
13= [U/Y] (U) IGNITION SIGNAL FROM CAB
14= [G/N] (G/N) HEATER SIGNAL FROM CAB
15= [ ] NOT CONNECTED
FROM FIAT CAB
Green = Not used by EM50
Blue = Only required as option on EM50
Black = Required signals
Pin Fiat SES Description
1= [W] (W) THIRD BRAKE LIGHT FEED FROM CAB
2= [N/B] (W/N) D- SIGNAL FROM CAB (-VE ENGINE RUN)
3= [N/G] VEHICLE SPEED SIGNAL
4= [R/B] (R) DOOR LOCK SIGNAL
5= [B/R] (B/R) DOOR UNLOCK SIGNAL
6= [P/B] REAR DOOR SIGNAL INPUT TO CAB
7= [G/R] CEILING LIGHT +VE SUPPLY FROM CAB
8= [G/W] CEILING LIGHT -VE SUPPLY FROM CAB
9= [K/W] CAN BUS SIGNAL (LOW)
10= [K/B] CAN BUS SIGNAL (HIGH)
11= [R/Y] (P) SIDE MARKER SIGNAL FROM CAB
12= [Y/G] (Y/G) AIRCON SIGNAL FROM CAB
13= [U/Y] (U) IGNITION SIGNAL FROM CAB
14= [G/N] (G/N) HEATER SIGNAL FROM CAB
15= [ ] NOT CONNECTED
FROM FIAT CAB
Green = Not used by EM50
Blue = Only required as option on EM50
Black = Required signals
_________________
Peter L
PLOUGHLIN- Donator
-
Posts : 4892
Joined : 2014-06-24
Member Age : 54
Location : NORTH HERTS
Auto-Sleeper Model : MB Gloucester
Vehicle Year : 2011
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
That is the same EM50 pdf that I looked at. I have not checked my connector to see if 9 & 10 are connected but as my temperatures are the same (I think) I assumed that the sensor source is the same.
_________________
Best wishes - Ron
inspiredron- Member
-
Posts : 3436
Joined : 2012-06-03
Member Age : 83
Location : Ellesmere, Shropshire
Auto-Sleeper Model : Lancashire
Vehicle Year : 2012
Re: Daft 1st question from newby
Just had a Check Sargent 5.8 c dash 39 c ( not sure if 3.9 or 39 no point incerted . ) Actual temp 9.6 c.???
Molly3- Member
-
Posts : 616
Joined : 2017-11-07
Location : Sheffield
Auto-Sleeper Model : Nuevo
Vehicle Year : 2014
The Auto-Sleeper Motorhome Owners Forum (ASOF) :: Auto-Sleeper Motorhome Forums :: Auto-Sleeper "Coachbuilt Motorhomes" Forum
Page 1 of 1
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum