Hill Start Assist
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Hill Start Assist
Does anyone know if it is possible to retro fit the Hill Start Assist system to a 2014/15 Warwick Duo?
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Re: Hill Start Assist
my 2011 symbol states it has in the Van manual but I have never managed to get it to work...
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mike
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Re: Hill Start Assist
I had the same but mine only works from the foot brake on hills of 6%(?) gradient or more - took a while to find this out.mpbarrett wrote:my 2011 symbol states it has in the Van manual but I have never managed to get it to work...
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mike
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Re: Hill Start Assist
tried it on lots of steep hills in Spain but it always ran backwards.. never got it to work!
cheers
mike
cheers
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Re: Hill Start Assist
mpbarrett wrote:tried it on lots of steep hills in Spain but it always ran backwards.. never got it to work!
Were you using the footbrake ~only~? These systems typically are not designed to work at all with the handbrake - if you use that they get confused or just won't work.
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Re: Hill Start Assist
yep. Even read the handbook and still cant get it to work.... :(
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Re: Hill Start Assist
Me too.mpbarrett wrote:yep. Even read the handbook and still cant get it to work.... :(
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Re: Hill Start Assist
just looked at older post that mentions the ESP.
I wonder if this has to be on (defaults to off on my van) for this feature to work.
Not many hills in Cambridge to try it on...
mike
I wonder if this has to be on (defaults to off on my van) for this feature to work.
Not many hills in Cambridge to try it on...
mike
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Re: Hill Start Assist
mpbarrett wrote:just looked at older post that mentions the ESP.
I wonder if this has to be on (defaults to off on my van) for this feature to work.
The Stability Program on the van is by default turned off? That's a serious design flaw in my opinion! On a VW T5 or T6 it's simply not possible to turn off ESP, and the traction control (called ASR on VWs) is also on by default - ASR can be turned off manually, but it comes on again when you re-start the engine.
Really - what were they thinking when they designed it like that? You can imagine a driver starting to lose control on a corner, and having to control the start of a skid while at the same time trying to reach the "ESP On" button to turn the system on. A crazily bad design, IMO.
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Re: Hill Start Assist
ESP is on by default.
It should light up when you press it, which is a warning that you have now turned it off.
It should light up when you press it, which is a warning that you have now turned it off.
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Re: Hill Start Assist
Just looked at my Handbook (2015 Peugeot-based). No mention of ESP. But says:
ABS - cannot be deactivated by driver
DSC (dynamic stability control - which I guess is ESP) - cannot be deactivated by driver.
Also available, but not fitted to mine, are ASR (anti-slip regulation); Intelligent Traction Control; Hill descent control; lane departure system ... and every other combination of 3 letters, including the scrumptious CDM!
In short, I cannot turn off DSC (=ESP) so that isn't the trigger for Hill Assist.
ABS - cannot be deactivated by driver
DSC (dynamic stability control - which I guess is ESP) - cannot be deactivated by driver.
Also available, but not fitted to mine, are ASR (anti-slip regulation); Intelligent Traction Control; Hill descent control; lane departure system ... and every other combination of 3 letters, including the scrumptious CDM!
In short, I cannot turn off DSC (=ESP) so that isn't the trigger for Hill Assist.
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Re: Hill Start Assist
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Think ASR is the only one that can be turned off, so it's possible to spin the wheels in muddy conditions to try and get grip back.
Think ASR is the only one that can be turned off, so it's possible to spin the wheels in muddy conditions to try and get grip back.
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